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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on December 25, 2012 at 2:08pm

I've no doubt your decision to volunteer is greatly appreciated!

Permalink Reply by Wesley on December 15, 2012 at 9:20pm

What if the teachers accidently shoot some kids or staff in the crossfire?   Is that just the risk you have to take?

Permalink Reply by Unseen on December 15, 2012 at 9:36pm

Of course. "Friendly fire." If a police officer had stumbled on the shooter and accidentally shot a kid before killing the shooter but cut the body count from 20 to 5 (including the one the cop shot), the math works. It's a worthwhile trade off, no?

Permalink Reply by SteveInCO on December 16, 2012 at 12:51pm

It has been claimed that police are far more likely to do this sort of accidental collateral damage than are non-police citizens with a concealed carry permit in similar situations.  In other words the "professionals" are worse shots than the amateur who jumped through the (relatively minor) hoops to get a permit..

Permalink Reply by Unseen on December 23, 2012 at 12:27am

At the same time, a lot of amateur gun owners may go to the practice range several times a year whereas a police officer may only go as often as required. Perhaps once per year.

Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on December 23, 2012 at 12:32am

Don't you ever run down? You're like the freakin' Energizer Bunny, you just keep going, and going, and going, and going, and...

Permalink Reply by Reggie on December 25, 2012 at 2:21am

Hahaha.

Permalink Reply by Gregg R Thomas on December 24, 2012 at 5:18pm

I love the "What if..." it's so informative.

But let's give it a shot...

The answer to your question will depend upon shot placement and of course bullet choice, did you wish to give us this information?

The risk part of your question is also difficult to assess, who's risk? The teacher's?  The kid/kids?  The staff? The person or persons the teacher is shooting at?  Your own personal risk?  My own personal risk?  Someones metaphorical risk?

Or was this just another in a long line of vitriolic questions?

AssessmentRisk assessment - Risk assessment is a step in a risk management procedure. →

Permalink Reply by jared manley on December 15, 2012 at 9:26pm

 I'm afraid that however the gun situation is handled from here out we chance people losing more rights or giving them away freely. I have a hard time trusting our government to not make a "war on Mental Health" or a "War on Guns" as there was a "War on Crime", a "War on Drugs" and a "War on Terror" all of which american citizens gave up or lost rights.

 I work in a liquor store and they are notorious for getting robbed. About half of my co-workers carry a gun either concealed or open. I might be glad for that one day or I might catch one of their strays. Hopefully it's not like the shoot out scene in "From Dusk Til Dawn".

 I guess what I'm saying is that I trust me with a gun and thats about it. No telling if a teacher might snap or not be responsible or if a someone might take it from them or if they would just shit themselves and not use it. There are no promises.

 If in the right hands sure it might cut down on casualties but if not it could make things worse. So I wouldn't suggested teachers armed or even anyone special be paid to be there but maybe if the national guard (I don't know if thats a stupid suggestion or not) volunteered to roam the hallways accompanied by an alarm in every classroom that can pinpoint exactly where the perp. is then maybe?

 If I don't sound solid on that it's cause I'm not. There is no easy answer here. If there is I doubt any of us will be the ones to come up with it.

Permalink Reply by Lewal on December 22, 2012 at 11:52am

Sometimes we look at our rights and say "Yeah, actually... that's kind of a stupid right." Maybe our right to own slaves or treat women as inferiors wasn't specifically stated in a constitution. But at one point, we had it. And then we were like "Ehhhhh..."

Permalink Reply by Unseen on December 15, 2012 at 9:43pm

Now for all you folks saying that we need to catch these people before they snap, how exactly would that work?

Let's round up all the goths and put them into a concentration camp until we can reprogram them. Ditto for all the schizos and bipolars, right?

I know that's not what you want, but what you want could easily become a witch hunt.

Permalink Reply by jared manley on December 15, 2012 at 10:08pm

"the War on Mental Health".

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