...a couple staffers had been armed?
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It could be done quite non-threateningly to the 2nd Amendment, prove ownership of the gun or its confiscated, the official song being song is its the illegal guns that are the problem not the abiding citizens.
How would the govt become AWARE of the existence of the weapon in the first place? Of course, after the bad guy's shoot-em-up, the government can step in and charge the suicidally-dead corpse with having a gun that is illegal.
On the other hand simply having previous military training is not enough considering the high instance of PTSD, anger issues, and socialization issues, from returning military people, you don't really know where their head is at after all that they have experienced.
I think a lot of people with PTSD would simply want to stay about as far from this sort of duty as they could get, but yes some sort of psychological evaluation for ex-military would seem to be called for.
I don't think that having stealth teachers/staffers with arms available on campus is a perfect solution. No solution that's perfect is also possible. And maybe the day will come when an armed teacher goes on a rampage, but I think that's less likely than the intruder/killer.
If we had proper documentation and universal registration of all guns regardless of it being a commercial or private sale, if we made reporting the theft of a gun required, and the failure to report, a crime, then this conversation would be moot.
And what about the people who don't obey the law? They exist, and thus there won't be anything "universal" about registration and people won't report lost guns for a variety of reasons, including that they don't know yet that they have been lost/stolen. What are we going to threaten them with? Ten years in a Federal penitentiary. They're already full to the brim with people caught with marijuana.
Unless the goal is to keep blood off the hands of anyone intervening instead of maximizing the saving of lives, one should worry about crossfire. It's one thing if a policeman shoots at a suspect fleeing a robbery where the suspect isn't trying to kill as many people as possible, another if the shooter is just trying to kill everyone in sight before going out in a blaze of glory.
You can "get" that distinction, can't you?
If children are taught that police or guards are there for their protection, that should make them feel safer than were they to be left unprotected.
I believe most soldiers on a base are unarmed unless engaged in some activity requiring it. In the case of Virginia tech, it had a vast campus. A totally different situation from a small elementary school building.
Absolutely it would have been lower.
This individual (who also killed his mother before going on the rampage) was stopped relatively quickly by an assistant principal dashing out to his car and retrieving a .45.
Notice these events take place in areas where firearms are banned. Clearly that doesn't stop the shooter, but it has lots to do with stopping the response to the shooter, and the nutjubs are just lucid enough to realize that.
I would not send my children to a school with armed guards, I'd rather teach them at home.
George Orwells 1984 is starting to become a reality in the states, you guys seriously need to consider the price you are paying for your safety and ask if it's worth your liberty.
Why wouldn't you send children to a school with armed guards? The guards needn't be standing at the door holding an AK-47. In fact, the guns could be in a locked cabinet somewhere, only to be opened if gunshots were heard.
By the time the cabinets were opened and the guards at the scene how many people will be dead? That's the problem with guns for protection, they have to be easily available and at the ready in an instant, not locked away as they should be.
If it took them 2 or 3 minutes to get the guns...remember, the attack lasted 10 minutes. Are you saying that unless they could spare every single life, then better to just let them die?
Why is it that when the subject of guns comes up, most of my liberal friends (and I count myself a liberal) abandon all logic?
Because it is better to try prevent this from happening in the first place rather than having people at the school armed who could hopefully kill this type of attacker before he killed to many children