To me the world seems to have lost it's mind. Last few days have looked at pictures of gitmo bay and almost threw up. The dehumanizing of people was beyond words. History talked of hitler and auschwitz. Decades later what I saw in those photos of gitmo made me think of images of the the very humiliation that the United states once fought against. Turkey is burning because of fighting back the government turned on it's own people like a mad dog. here in america we finally start getting rights for LBGT . Along comes salvation army saying that it should be a death sentence. Killing people over religion seems to be on the rise. in india women are burning for supposed witchcraft and girls killed being victims of rape . The catholic church is says birth control is wrong . Nuns who argue with church are being excommunicated. In last political race it was debated whether women had a right to their on viginas . People are dying world over because of religion and lack of even basic medical and dental care. there is hope for this world right?
I've heard a TV attorney state that "not guilty" actually means "not proven" rather than "innocent."
@ The O man;
I think Ray Ray may have missed the "innocent until proven" part.
Under our jurisprudence a verdict of "not guilty" does mean "innocent". It means "innocent" so strongly and firmly that we have another rule called "double jeopardy".
"Not guilty" does not equate with innocent. Just look at some trials.
How about the O.J. Simpson case? He was found not guilty in the criminal trial. Very few people really doubt his guilt in the murders.
The jury in the civil trial had no difficulty in believing he was guilty.
Not a single one has been found guilty to western standards. Therefore they are guilty of nothing of interest to western law. I am wondering how long it is going to take them to realize how many thousands of public figures in the US they can sue for defamation.
"I agree that some in Gitmo are worse than others , that , however does not in any way mean the detainees are poor innocent lambs ."
When they are found guilty in a court of law by a jury of their peers with all the rights the West has found essential for justice you be sure to get back to me.
In fact get back to the when the FIRST one is convicted under those terms.
Until then, how do they differ from those guilty Jews?
"Many of those released have gone back to taking up arms against the west ."
If I were held in prison for years as an innocent person rest assured I would strongly consider exercising my moral right to revenge for the imprisonment.
They are still human. There are those who have been sent there that are not just islamic. The comparison fit the images i saw of gitmo. only thing missing is the gas chambers.