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Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on December 10, 2012 at 7:21pm

I think the proposal was that, in the eyes of the law, all people would have civil unions, including heterosexual couples. This would be an effort to separate out the legal aspects of the union from the cultural aspects. The term 'marriage' would then be free for anyone to use as they pleased in the manner they pleased.

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Permalink Reply by Strega on December 10, 2012 at 7:26pm

That's a perfect in-a-nutshell of what I also understood it to be.  It sounds absolutely 'check-mate' perfect to me.

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Permalink Reply by Andrew on December 10, 2012 at 6:02pm

YES. THIS. This is what I've been saying for years. 

It's why I made this: 

http://www.thinkatheist.com/photo/what-is-marriage-really-fixed?con...

and then this: 

http://www.thinkatheist.com/photo/any-theist-opposes-same-sex-marri...

Feel free to pass these images along to anyone you wish, if you think it'll help convince them.

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Permalink Reply by James on December 8, 2012 at 8:03pm

Here in Maryland, we just voted to legalize same-sex marriages. The most recent poll found that over 50% of Americans are now in favor, and that 73% of those aged 19 to 29 support marriage equality.

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on December 9, 2012 at 12:17am

Umm... Because they're Christian. Fundamentalists and Catholics in particular. 

Is this news to you?

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Permalink Reply by Wraith on December 9, 2012 at 8:02am

Choosing who you love and want to spend your life with is no-one else's business except your own, and theirs. Any Govt trying to deprive you of that deserves, excuse the informal nature of my response, is tyrannical and deserves a coup, revolution, overthrow or outright extermination.

To put it in simple terms, the govt is NOT there to say what you can and can't do. It should be there to protect your rights. Any restriction on those rights isn't Govt, it's tyrany. For example (forgive me but I still feel it's true) like Hilter/Nazi's/America.
Yes, I wasn't joking.

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on December 9, 2012 at 9:12am

There are Bible passages which appear to condemn homosexuals and treat it as a capital crime. Of course, we all read The Bible in translation. Beyond that, as Wittgenstein has said, "To know a language is to know a way of life," so can we really trust ANY translation?

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Permalink Reply by Kairan Nierde on December 9, 2012 at 10:11pm

Good point.  Not to mention, technical translation errors.  For how many centuries did Christians believe Jews secretly had horns, due to a one-word mistranslation? 

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Permalink Reply by LJ on December 9, 2012 at 1:08pm

"I get it that most people believe that being gay or homosexual is an abomination..."  Er, I think that using the word "most" here is a BIIIIG stretch...

 

But yes, I would agree with your main point.  What right has society to interfere with the private lives of any consenting pair of adults?

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Permalink Reply by Ron V on December 9, 2012 at 2:14pm

One word- religion

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on December 9, 2012 at 2:46pm

Anyone who wants to interpret The Bible so as to explain away the anti-gay passages (there are 6 or 8 of them) is just engaging in magical thinking. They are there, and while some may be subject to interpretation, some certainly are clear enough. Assuming the translations are good, of course.

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Permalink Reply by Strega on December 9, 2012 at 3:48pm

Actually, Unseen, I think that is untrue.  Please watch the youtube here

I think this young man explains them very eloquently.  Of course, you may feel you do not have the time to spend watching his dissertation.  Should that be the case, then please accept that the anti-gay passages in both the Old and New Testaments can be "explained away" and rather effectively.

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