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 The scene was horrifying. Gunmen stalked through the school, shooting children as they cowered under benches and booby-trapping buildings with homemade explosives.

When the siege finally ended, Pakistan was left reeling and the world wondering: Who would do such a thing? And what do they hope to achieve?

The identity of the group behind the massacre at the army-run school in Peshawar is no mystery.

The Pakistan Taliban -- who have long conducted an insurgency against the Pakistani government as they seek to overthrow the authorities and bring in Sharia law -- were quick to claim the terror attack.


Soldiers patrol the streets in Peshawar, Pakistan, near a school that was attacked by the Pakistani Taliban on Tuesday, December 16. Militants stormed the military-run school in northwest Pakistan, killing more than 140 people, most of them children. More than 100 people were injured.Soldiers patrol the streets in Peshawar, Pakistan, near a school that was attacked by the Pakistani Taliban on Tuesday, December 16. Militants stormed the military-run school in northwest Pakistan, killing more than 140 people, most of them children. More than 100 people were injured.
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Photos: Taliban attack Pakistani school Photos: Taliban attack Pakistani school

Hundreds of students killed in attack

And they said it was revenge for the killing of hundreds of innocent tribesmen and their children during a recent offensive by the Pakistani military.

Earlier this year, the government held tentative peace talks with the Pakistan Taliban -- formally known as Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, or TTP -- but it suspended them after two brazen attacks around Pakistan's largest airport in Karachi in June.

Since then, Pakistan's military has been conducting a ground offensive aimed at clearing out TTP and other militants in the loosely governed tribal areas of northwestern Pakistan. The campaign has displaced tens of thousands of people.

The Pakistan Taliban are also against Western-style education for children and the employment of women. Most famously, their militants shot schoolgirl education activist Malala Yousafzai in the head in 2012 as she traveled on a school bus. She survived to receive a Nobel Peace Prize last week.

The school attacked Tuesday, which educates both boys and girls in separate classes, is the main school for the children of army personnel in Peshawar and employs both male and female teachers -- making it a desirable target for the terrorists.

'Terrorist outfit'

The Pakistan Taliban want to stop the authorities from interfering in the tribal areas but also have an extremist ideological agenda, said Sajjan Gohel, international security director for the Asia Pacific Foundation think tank.

The outlawed Islamist group is closely affiliated with the Taliban in Afghanistan and its members swear allegiance to the Afghan group's leader, Mullah Omar. It also has close ideological ties with al Qaeda.

"This is a terrorist outfit, it's not just a group that is seeking control of the tribal area," Gohel said.

And like their bedfellows, the Pakistan Taliban are vehemently opposed to the U.S. military presence in the region.

In addition to vowing to force U.S. troops out of Afghanistan, they claimed responsibility for the failed bombing in 2010 in New York's Times Square and vowed revenge operations against the United States for the killing of Osama bin Laden.

In 2012, a TTP leader endorsed "external" -- meaning overseas -- operations by the group against American and British targets. And its late leader, Hakimullah Mehsud, killed last year in a U.S. drone strike, once vowed to send suicide bombers to the United States.

Outrage 'off the charts'

So will the Pakistan Taliban get what they want from the massacre in Peshawar?

CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen believes it could backfire spectacularly on them.

The group may have gained a lot of publicity, he said, but this attack on schoolchildren is seen as beyond the pale, and the ripples will be felt through Pakistani politics.

"If the intent was to get the Pakistani military or the Pakistani government to back down, that is just not going to happen," he said. "I think the level of outrage in Pakistan right now is off the charts."

While many Pakistanis have in the past either supported the Pakistan Taliban or backed peace negotiations with them, that attitude is now likely to harden, said Bergen.

Previous attempts to forge a peace with the group in 2004, 2005 and 2008 fell apart, he said, and the chance of future talks seems slim. "The history of doing deals with religious zealots is not good," he said.

Splits and defections

The restive provinces of South Waziristan, North Waziristan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, along the mountainous border with Afghanistan, have long been a stronghold for the Pakistan Taliban and other militant groups, including the Islamist Haqqani movement.

And as the Pakistani military tries to clamp down on the TTP, it hits back with attacks.

Last year, choir members and children attending Sunday school were among 81 people killed in a suicide bombing at the Protestant All Saints Church of Pakistan. A splinter group of the Pakistan Taliban claimed responsibility for the church attack, blaming the U.S. program of drone strikes in tribal areas of the country.

"Their primary target is the Pakistani state and its military," Raza Rumi of the Jinnah Institute, a Pakistani think tank, said of the TTP after the Karachi attacks in June.

"It resents the fact that (Pakistan) has an alliance with the West, and it wants Sharia to be imposed in Pakistan."

In recent months, the group has become increasingly fragmented -- meaning the formation of more militant factions -- and has suffered defections to ISIS.

At the same time, the Pakistani army has stepped up its military campaign in North Waziristan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

'They are interested in killing'

Ayesha Siddiqua, a Pakistani analyst and author of "Military Inc.," told CNN that Pakistan needs to rethink its approach to militant groups and whether any form of militancy is tolerated in the country.

"Unless that happens, this bloodshed will continue," she said.

However, even the latest attack is unlikely to prompt a major shift in policy, she argued, with some political elements within Pakistan continuing to be sympathetic to the TTP regardless.

With this attack, Siddiqua said, the Pakistan Taliban are trying to "achieve as much bloodshed and as much horror and terror" as they can, arguing it's revenge for their own families being killed.

"Very clearly, their objective is maximum damage, as many people as they can kill. They are not interested in hostages, they are interested in killing," she said.

"Since they cannot access hard targets so easily, they are going after softer targets."

Analyst Gohel said this shift in approach by the Pakistan Taliban was extremely disturbing.

"To target a school is another dynamic altogether, and especially one that is supported by the military," he said.

"It's a very clear statement of intent. They have been battling the military for a long time, now they are trying to visualize the terrorism effectively, as we are seeing with those graphic images that are being beamed around the world."

Security vacuum

Obstacles to tackling the Pakistan Taliban lie in the country's complex politics, its troubled relationship with Afghanistan, and differences over foreign policy between Pakistan's government and its military, said Gohel.

The Pakistan Taliban and their counterparts in Afghanistan move back and forth across the porous border, sharing resources, cooperating and jointly plotting attacks, said Gohel.

"There's no way of trying to challenge that unless you dismantle the infrastructure. And this is where the problem lies in Pakistan," he said. "The military will not dismantle the infrastructure for the Afghan Taliban, which allows the Pakistan Taliban to continue to exist."

And, he warned, the withdrawal of Western combat troops from Afghanistan by the end of this year is likely only to heighten the problem, as the Taliban step in to fill the resulting security vacuum.

"The Taliban have been biding their opportunity, waiting to carry out plots and activities, to try and regain a foothold especially in southern Afghanistan," he said.

"They will be cooperating with the Pakistan Taliban. There is this paradox that is creating this problem. You have the Pakistani military sponsoring and supporting the Afghan Taliban, (while) fighting the Pakistan Taliban, but both Talibans cooperate because they have that Pashtun ethnic factor that unites them."

Recent Pakistani offensives had been believed to have weakened the group, but it is clearly still all too capable of a shocking attack.

Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/16/world/asia/pakistan-taliban/index...

My heart breaks for them. What can we do? what should we do? Why do we tolerate that these men live?

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Clearly there is something about the religion of Islam which produces these people.  

You're taking a realistic approach Belle. Good for you.  There's no feel good solution for this.  The metaphor of Islam being a tumor is accurate. If it's not dealt with it will continue to spread.  And it has spread further than it should have ever been allowed to thanks to unrealistic approaches.

Incarcerating all of them is entirely impractical and impossible.  Quarantining them -- depriving them of all resources, technology and benefits of the modern age to reduce them back to a 7th century existence will be more effective as a first response than sending in armies.  Starve them of electricity, bridges, communications, food, medicine, fuel, money, ammunition, and every other known resource.  Stop all forms of travel outside their borders. Stop all forms of trade and export with them. 

And when they plead for mercy, give them none.  

That's when it's time to really get mean.

It's time to consider the best interests of the world which Islam is in complete conflict with and stop being soft about it if we really want this to be resolved.

Starve them of electricity, bridges, communications, food, medicine, fuel, money, ammunition, and every other known resource.  Stop all forms of travel outside their borders. Stop all forms of trade and export with them.

What borders? You mean entire countries, like Pakistan?

I like the concept. Like an amped up Mexican border. Just add more Jeeps and SUVs, with password locked ignition systems, and nothing but Barry Manilow for the audio systems.

@ Tom Sarbeck

Huh? Not that I'm defending Christianity but catholics and protestants drastically reformed and changed since the late 1600s. They've never kept pace with society and never will. All the factors that led to changes in Christianity are absent or unquestioningly punished by death under Islam.

Islam is unable to reform itself due to the way it is constructed rigidly and unalterably around the teaching of Mohammed. It is stagnant in the 7th century.

Virgil, what do you recommend?

It's discussed on thread "In defense of Islam".   

Say it in five words, Virgil. I won't read a long argument for it.

good luck thinking like that. five words.

Yes Virgil unfortunately incarcerating them would likely only make them stronger. I honestly think the ONLY real solution that could ever work would be for their own people To do something about it.

That sounds good Belle but you have to take the "Muslim mentality"into consideration.  Since the time Big Mo invented Islam they have been the most terrorized and victimized people on earth in order to keep their religion supreme.  After 1400 years of that they DO NOT perceive things the way you or I do.  Most of them cannot even imagine doing anything about changing Islam because it is all they know.  They can't imagine life without it.  Also anyone stupid enough to speak out against anything done in the name of Islam is automatically a heretic and condemned to death without any debate.  Therefore moderates within Islam who could do "something about it" do not exist in any recognizable numbers or organizations.  It will take a complete breakdown of their culture (through uncompromising quarantine programs or even more drastic means) to make it possible for people with moderate views to even have a chance to step up and do what you think is the only real solution. And to be honest, I'd still not trust them to handle such a project on their own. 

What can we do?

In light of our recent Middle East failures I would say we need to mind our own business and let the UN or someone else take the lead in that mess. Some [Israel] worry about Iran and it's interests in nuclear technologies meanwhile Pakistan possesses nuclear armament and has a government of dubious stability.

BTW, we continue to lose stateside a couple dozen former military suffering from PTSD to suicide each and every day.  

I know vets who get PTSD treatment through the VA.  They get meds and they get to see a VA therapist once a month.  That is woefully inadequate for any meaningful progress in coping with PTSD.  The "lucky" ones qualify for some kind of disability and are able to seek treatment through means other than VA.

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