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Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on November 20, 2012 at 12:26am A tripod has legs.
Tripods are made by Manfrotto.
Manfrotto makes legs.
Spiders have legs.
Spiders are made by Manfrotto.
Permalink Reply by Strega on November 20, 2012 at 6:02am Arch has a spider infestation
Manfrotto makes spiders
Manfrotto hates Arch
(waves from a fly-by posting in the UK)
Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on November 20, 2012 at 9:35am Sounds like someone is full of room-temperature beer --
Permalink Reply by Milos Cakovan on November 20, 2012 at 8:38am You are proposing magic.
By adding a creator to the equation, you are not answering the "how," you are adding a "what" which answers nothing.
Abiogenesis, the big bang and evolution are all testable theories that have proof to back them up, and they help answer the "how we got there." Your creator has no testable evidence, or any evidence at all, it just adds an unnecessary, and according to the beliefs of the people who agree with a creator, unexplainable, element to the question.
Saying "it is complicated, therefore a creator did it," doesn't explain how it was done.
I know theists love using the automobile as an explanation to support design, so here we go.
Say that I ask you how an automobile is made... Would you point me to a video or a book explaining the process of manufacturing, and show evidence that this is the process to make a car, or would you say "Henry Ford," and just leave it at that.
Permalink Reply by Angelo on November 20, 2012 at 11:37am To me , it is the crucial question, what was the origin of the universe, life, and biodiversity.
Abiogenesis, the big bang, and evolution, are categorized as historical sciences, and no of them can be tested, since these events happened in the past, and cannot be repeated.
As said previously, abiogenesis is a hypoteses that has failed to provide answers to how life arose by natural means. Leading scientists in the field admit they have no clue how life came to be. The problems are well known, and it is more than clear today, that chance, or physical need, the only alternatives to intelligent design, fail to be conceivable mechanisms to explain the arise of life.
Permalink Reply by Milos Cakovan on November 20, 2012 at 12:03pm Leading scientists in the field admit they have no clue how life came to be.
Evidence, please.
the only alternatives to intelligent design, fail to be conceivable mechanisms to explain the arise of life.
Evidence, please.
You are quick to deny everything we provide you, without reading, it seems. Can you please show us any evidence to support your argument?
Permalink Reply by Angelo on November 20, 2012 at 12:52pm http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/2011/02/28/pssst-do...
you have not provided me anything compelling, so far. just empty and superficial assertions. how about you ask yourself, if its not you, dismissing quickly, withouth puting any thought into what i am posting ?
or isnt it, that you are just not interested in the truth ?
Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on November 20, 2012 at 12:19pm I'm curious, Angelo, this is SO not in your phraseology: "The problems are well known, and it is more than clear today, that chance, or physical need, the only alternatives to intelligent design, fail to be conceivable mechanisms to explain the arise of life."
Which theist website did you copy and paste it from?
As John Lennon said - "Imagine there's no heaven".I look at it the other way and try to imagine that there is. Nope - makes no sense,
Permalink Reply by Angelo on November 19, 2012 at 11:20pm why not ? just because you do not want to ?
Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on November 19, 2012 at 11:59pm Probably because he doesn't want to waste his time!
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