I think it is obvious that Christianity has become mostly benign and secularized for the most part and I don't see Christians subjugating their women and executing gays in the ways that take place in the Islamic world due to the quran and Hadith (the Hadith is the so-called writings of the prophet and his followers in which Islamic Shariah law is based from); but I see too many atheists tending to bash Christianity and giving excuses for Islam. Why is this so when according to the Islamic faith, we atheists are "kafar" should be the first ones killed before the Christians and Jews (especially me, since I am an apostate since I was "born" a Muslim); therefore, why do atheists tend to give excuses for the true evils of the Islamic faith??
Jesus Christ as a symbol (whether he was a real person or not) is a much better role model than the child molesting, murderous, and evil "prophet" called Muhammad. The Bible doesn't demand governments to be Christian but the Quran demands that all governments be Islamic by nature and the punishments are much more bizarre. In Islam, you can not even ask any questions about Muhammad or Allah but Christians and Jews are able to debate within themselves and ask questions. When a cartoon is drawn or a quran is burnt you see how savagely Muslims act throughout the world and those who are "moderate" instead of condemning the barbaric acts blame the "Salman Rushdie's" or the "Pastor" instead of placing blame on the perpetrators and culture of violence in the Islamic world. So why is it, that Christianity is often (in my opinion) overly criticized and Islam is not criticized enough when the gravest threat to the existence of the human race is surely an Islamic regime with nuclear weapons?? I'd like to get your opinions..
Sassan before we went into Afghanistan the Taliban offered up Bin Laden if the west would recognize the Taliban government we decided not to do this and went to the war lords of northern Afghanistan (the tribal chiefs and drug lords). Now this is history and we understand your aversion.
The Taliban had cut poppy production to almost nothing, since the west has arrived Afghanistan produces 90% of the heroin in the world and the west guards the fields. Using your logic does this make the west narco terrorists?
It is the duty of patriotic Afghans to kill as many of the mercenary thugs sent by brutal and distant occupying powers (the UN being, basically because of the security council, a U.S. stooge) as is possible.
Here is a despicable and filth post by "Brian Wood" in blatantly supporting terrorists in the attacks against our patriotic brave young men and women; but in addition to supporting attacks against the Afghan people since the majority of the Afghan people want our presence and assistance in helping them build a future. How despicable.
Followed by this was Reggie's reply seeming to affirm what Brian Wood said:
But...but...WE'RE the good guys! Didn't anyone tell them that their role is that of the bad guy?
You have no logic and common sense my friend...actually, I do think you have common sense. You just don't express it on here. You have become quite deluded with your warp mentality of world views. It is quite sad but it is your prerogative to hold those views; however unhealthy they may be.
Majority of Iranians are not of the Muslim faith. See, you don't even know how Iranians are. First OFF, the majority of Iranians CALL themselves Muslim because they believe in a god but they are not religious and do not pray. They despise organized religion. Like most American Christians, they just believe in a god and live their own life. Even that, less and less Iranians are even calling themselves Muslim. I just spent 8+ months in Iran as of recently and it made me happy to see more and more Iranians of all walks of life refusing to call themselves Muslim and many have become atheists, or Christian and Zoroastrian converts. A significant portion of others who still believe in god refuse to call themselves Muslim and that's from the youth to the middle-aged taxi driver to the store owners - and it includes many people inside of my own family.
But again, even for those Iranians who call themselves Muslim they are fake Muslims and not religious. The one thing this regime has done effective (the only thing) is to make sure that inside of a free and democratic Iran, there will be no influence of Islam. I believe in the era of my grandchildren, the vast majority of Iranians will even refuse to call themselves Muslim (right now it is prob. 20-30% don't even call themselves Muslim and 60-70% are non-religious and maybe 10% are religious max) - so please get an education or understanding of what is going on inside of Iran today.
And nuclear weapons in the hands of a regime that is "preparing for the return of imam mahdi" is indeed a dangerous predicament for the human race.
I am Iranian and America - dual citizen - I was born in Tehran and came to the U.S. when I was 3 but I have spent considerable periods of time - esp. as of recently when I spent 8+ months in Iran. And yes, I speak Farsi.
And I have to run right now but I will respond to the rest of the posts later. Bottom line: the Islamic regime in Iran is a regime that rapes - because Allah grants it - and murders from the will of "Allah"; Iranians of all walks of life can only dream and wish this regime will soon go...and hopefully the international community will step up to the plate in approximately 2-years when the people will have a chance to once again go to the streets.
We should have gone to Iran instead of Iraq. It was a bigger threat and Iranians are pro-west and pro-American; we are not Arabs and we are fake Muslims. But don't tell me the international community shouldn't assist the Iranian people when we rise again. This is a regime that will kill every last Iranian to keep power and Iranians in Iran don't have weapons. Remember, this is a regime that rapes virgins before executing them because they believe that "virgins go straight to heaven".
I for one on this 4th of July appreciative of the freedoms we have in the west in which some of us take for granted or fail to see what freedoms truly are. In Iran, I would be executed for being an atheist (apostate or kafar).
Yes, they would have. Again, I spent 8+ months in Iran as of 5-months ago (I think 6-months now) and I can say the majority of people wish that the U.S. would have assisted Iran in particular when the Islamic Republic was weaker. If this regime acquires a nuclear weapon - it takes the people hostage with them.
Remember two things: 70% of the country is under the age of 30 and those who are older are united against this regime as they lived under both the Shah and the Islamic Republic. In Iran, women had rights from the working to human rights to having fun. Women back then dressed as they wished and even the older people like my grandparents miss the Shah and regret everything that has taken Iran to the toilet.
In Iran there is a very dangerous highway which the regime refuses to fix. Why? Because they send all their money to terrorist organizations all around the world - from the Taliban to Muqtada Al-Sadr and other Shiite and even Sunni elements in Iraq to the Palestinian terrorist groups to Hizbollah to Syria to Africa to everywhere BUT MOTHER FUCKING IRAN. In this road, 80-120,000 people die each year in what should be preventable accidents if we had a government that cared.
Again, I truly say this from all walks of life. From my taxi driver I became friends with who fought in the Iran-Iraq war and saw friends die in front of him to the young to the elderly. This is a regime that will kill every last Iranian to keep power. If the U.S. had assisted in the liberation of Iran instead of Iraq; all the aftermath of terrorist attacks wouldn't have happened in Iran as the only terrorists we would have to worry about would be Hizbollis and they are very few in number and most of them would escape to Syria and Lebanon. Arabs would not be able to infiltrate Iran as we are Iranian and not Arab. They are not part of our culture and simply Iran would have been much easier, quicker, and the people would have been much more supportive and appreciate as we are not radical Muslims (the populace).
So to answer your question, none of that would have happened. It is simply the truth. Bush's biggest mistake was going to Iraq and not Iran ....it is what it is and the world is still a better place without Saddam Hussein. And you are right, that is exactly what would have happened. It is funny you make it sound like an implausible event but that is exactly what would have happened :(.
Would it surprise you to say that President Bush is a very popular figure in Iran? People love John McCain too ironically and Obama is not to popular...especially after neglecting Iran in 2009. Remember, after 9/11 who celebrated in the streets in the Middle East? Young Arab Muslims. Who mourned in candle light for the victims of 9/11? Iranians.
Behind Israel, Iran is the 2nd most pro-American people in the entire Middle East.