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Permalink Reply by Unseen on June 4, 2012 at 9:15am

It's just something else to do that's sexual,and it doesn't make babies, which can be a big plus. I don't think anyone should feel forced to do it, but that would go for just about anything sexual.

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Permalink Reply by Freek on June 5, 2012 at 12:33am

Personally, I'm not interested in the concept of anal sex (from either end). But I am not negative about the idea itself existing. For whoever enjoys it; keep on enjoying it.

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Permalink Reply by Ed on June 3, 2012 at 10:05am

What would be valid reasons for being sex-negative? Aside from the obvious bad sexual experiences of rape/incest for instance.

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Permalink Reply by prude on June 3, 2012 at 12:24pm

What would be valid reasons for being sex-negative?

I've come across the argument, for example, that sexual arousal can affect cognition negatively, so that subjects take more sexual risks. For example, people who are sexually aroused may be more careless when using condoms. Sexual arousal could negatively affect cognition in other ways.

Here's one citation:

Ariely, D., & Loewenstein, G. (2006). The heat of the moment: The effect of sexual arousal on sexual decision making. Journal of Behavioral Decision Making, 19, 87–98. doi:10.1002/bdm.501

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on June 4, 2012 at 9:17am

I hope a lot of money wasn't spent on that study. Only a study proving that water is wet could have a more ridiculously obvious conclusion.

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Permalink Reply by diggerbanks on June 4, 2012 at 6:21am

exactly, it's like saying I am breath-negative or something equally fundamental and hard-wired.

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on June 3, 2012 at 11:22am

In my opinion, sex represents life, both figuratively and literally. I find one's attitude toward sex to very closely mirror their outlook on life. So exchange the word, "sex" in the above paragraph, with the word, "life," and ask yourself how it sounds to you.

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Permalink Reply by Jaret on June 3, 2012 at 12:34pm

After reading the wikipedia document about the sex positive movement, it seems you are referring to swinging of sorts? I think you may be confused about the difference of people saying to embrace sexuality and going around sleeping with everyone. 

I embrace my sexuality and most of the atheist community probably embraces sexuality in general. Sex is beautiful and is the most physically pleasurable experience a human being is physically capable of experiencing. Does this mean most atheist believe in going around experiencing it with everyone? Absolutely not. 

I think most atheist, I cant speak for everyone, view sex as a great thing. We should be open about it. American culture especially thinks we should keep in behind closed doors. Joe Rogan the comedian points out an interesting thing that almost every adult male masterbates but no one teaches their sons about masrterbating. I personally encourage the practice for men and women. It is healthy and good for your wellbeing. The bizarre thing is if you teach your son how to masterbate in america you would probably be viewed as a pedophile.

I am happily married and I do not have sex with other women. But I am "sex positive". I am completely against abstinence. When I was a devout christian, I was abstinent for many years even abstaining before my first marriage for the most part. Yes we waited. I am now adamantly against it because sex is such an important part of a relationship and we were unaware that we were not sexually compatible until after we were married. The marriage didn't last long. 

I think few atheist are swingers, however I assume most swingers are atheist. There is nothing wrong with swinging, but it is against our nature to let another man bang your wife. But if it works for them, good.

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Permalink Reply by prude on June 3, 2012 at 2:56pm

After reading the wikipedia document about the sex positive movement, it seems you are referring to swinging of sorts?

I'm not necessarily referring to swinging. As far as I understand, there is an important difference between sexual attitudes and sexual behaviors. For example, someone could be perfectly "asexual" and virginal and still have a sex-positive attitude. On the other hand, someone could be a sex-addict and sex-maniac and still have a sex-negative attitude. In other words, one can be average behaviorally and still be sex-positive. One does not have to be a swinger to be sex-positive.

Here is a video by Laci Green that I think is sort of illustrative of sex-positivity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-seJ7BPmBo

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on June 3, 2012 at 8:06pm

Do not misunderstand me, I LOVE sex, and whatever you do, don't consider me a pedophile by what I'm about to say (because I WILL find you!), but the one thing, given a choice, that I would accept before, or in place of sex, is a hug and kiss from a little child who loves me with all of his/her heart.

Sex I can get - that kind of devotion is rare --

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on June 3, 2012 at 10:39pm

Children are needy and seductive in their own way. And I'm not using "seductive" in its sexual sense, but rather I'm referring to how a child will play up to a grown-up to get what it wants. This is because they are small and weak and vulnerable, and they can't get much of what they want without getting it from a grown up. Children (like dogs and cats) don't really love you. You just represent food and warmth and physical pleasure.

In the case of dogs, add in the pack animal instincts, which can appear to be love and/or altruism.

True love is an adult thing. I believe the only REAL love is the love of the parent for the child, the love between true friends, and the love of the grown-up child for their parents. Romantic love? That's just a selfish form of obsession.

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on June 3, 2012 at 10:55pm

As always, Mr. Sunshine --

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