Hi folks,

 

I should say at the start that I am a christian, but don't hold it against me!  I am always interested in what other people think, and enjoing reading the posts on this website.  So i'd like to throw some questions out to get more insight into atheism.  Your help is appreciated.

 

Qn:  If there were two universes, one with a God, and the other without, which one would you want to live in and why?

 

Qn:  If scientific theory began to support theism (more than atheism) would you change your position

       (like Antony Flew)?

       Try really hard to avoid answers like: 'that would never happen.. etc.'

 

Qn:  Would you describe your position as "There definitely is no God"  or "Naturalism does not need a divine being and so God is improbable" or something else?

 

All respectful discussion welcome!

     

 

 

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I am sure Steve using sarcasm to show how some deluded Christians might still fail to get the point!!

He clearly was.  Someone advocating the position wouldn't likely use the word "Slaughtering"

Yeah, the internet is bad at conveying emotions. But I guess it's another proof for Poe's Law

Qn:  If there were two universes, one with a God, and the other without, which one would you want to live in and why?

Humm, one God... since I was a muslim... I use to think that monotheism is more logical than other religions...

if there are 2  universes, one with a God, and the other without.. I'll live in the one without...

and why? because I wanna have my peace of mind.....

I dont like to see those followers of Abraham killing each other..

See, what God did to Palestine...the descendants of Ismail and the descendants of Isaac are killing each other in the Holy land! that's what I really really hate!

 

 

Qn:  If scientific theory began to support theism (more than atheism) would you change your position

       (like Antony Flew)?

If scientific theory began to support theism I'll change my position... but wait! what kind of  theism? you mean christianity?... I respect christianity after all :) but I think deism well be a good option if I find a scientific theory that support the existence of God. like Voltaire :)

 

 

Qn:  Would you describe your position as "There definitely is no God"  or "Naturalism does not need a divine being and so God is improbable" or something else?

It is difficult to know or to be certain of the existence of God or even his non-existence!

God didnt leave us enough evidence.. I am agnostic.. this is my position.

Qn:  If there were two universes, one with a God, and the other without, which one would you want to live in and why?

That would of course depend on which 'God' decided to show up. If we are talking about a Christian God...is it the fire and brimstone God of the Old Testament or the God of 'peace' that the New Testament? Also one of the largest problems I have with God are the hypocritically actions undertaken on his behalf - So in the Godless universe..do people still believe in God regardless of the fact that he does not exist? In the same line of thought - Do people distrust God knowing that he exists and that the Universe is still so flawed?    I think it is not God but man who make the Universe livable. So I would choose to live in the Universe with the MOST RATIONAL INHABITANTS. 

 

Qn:  If scientific theory began to support theism (more than atheism) would you change your position

       (like Antony Flew)?

       Try really hard to avoid answers like: 'that would never happen.. etc.'

 I would if it was provable. Unequivocally...but that doesn't mean I would like it.

 

Qn:  Would you describe your position as "There definitely is no God"  or "Naturalism does not need a divine being and so God is improbable" or something else?

The various laws by which God exists in each religion are so contradictory that even if religious texts are true they render God impossible to exist as depicted - coupled with the lack of evidence for God we must simply assume he does not exist.

Qn:  If there were two universes, one with a God, and the other without, which one would you want to live in and why?

 

That would depend on which version of God, presumably the Christian one, you mean. Do you mean the vengeful one or the forgiving one? I would only want to live in the universe with a god if he was how i believe the ideal Christian God would be. To me the ideal God would be not caught up in if people believe in him/her, they would rather have people do good in the world and help each. Rather then condemn someone simply for not bowing to his ego. The reason I would select this universe is because assuming there is a God that would mean there would be Heaven and Hell. Obiviously the existance of heaven is a good thing assuming your get in by being a good person and not just killing or hurting people for selfish reasons ect.

Qn:  If scientific theory began to support theism (more than atheism) would you change your position                (like Antony Flew)?

Try really hard to avoid answers like: 'that would never happen.. etc.'

 

If that were the case then yes I would support theism. I do not believe in God because there is more evidence, from what I have observed or researched, leading to the conclusion that an all powerful such as this does not exist. However if this was somehow to be changed and scientific theory began to support theism then it would only make sense to believe in a God.

 

Qn:  Would you describe your position as "There definitely is no God"  or "Naturalism does not need a divine being and so God is improbable" or something else?

 

The way I see it is there more then likely is not, or ever was ever a God. My favourite way to see it is I think of "God" as the Big Bang. The Big Bang is the moment that gave our universe the ability to have life, thereby creating all life and everything that is existence today. If there was a God that created all things, it would be the big bang and god is in everything. "God" is life and existence itself.

SNAP.

Snap indeed.

Qn:  If there were two universes, one with a God, and the other without, which one would you want to live in and why?

 If the god in question behaved in the way that Christians believe he is acting in this universe, I'd have to say "What's the difference? He never helps."  Ultimately I'd have to agree with other atheists on this board. I don't really want a god who created me and can see everything, and that whole ineffable judgement thing...Don't get me started. Christianity was a confusing thing for me since age 5 and it took me 23 years to get the stones to leave it.

Qn:  If scientific theory began to support theism (more than atheism) would you change your position

       (like Antony Flew)?

       I wouldn't change my position even if the creator kicked me in the shin himself. To quote Terry Pratchett's Granny Weatherwax "I don't go around believing in gods. It only encourages them." If there is a god, I'm not about to start praising him, just like I don't spend my days praising numerous inventors who have made my modern life what it is.

 

Qn:  Would you describe your position as "There definitely is no God"  or "Naturalism does not need a divine being and so God is improbable" or something else?

My position is that I don't believe in a god, but if I were proven wrong I don't believe in divine worship. If any religion so far has been right, then the gods are madmen.

1) (maybe there is ... we'll just never know!). Without. I dislike the idea of something so superior to - well - everything else existing. Regardless whether that being (or beings) is or is not perfect , seeing that something else has so much control over everything would make my existence feel rather constrained.

 

2) A beginning wouldn't be enough to change my beliefs in the slightest. If there were a full on theory, proven beyond the doubts of others and accepted by (almost) all, then I would probably still be wondering what it is that was missed. We're humans. We miss things. We make mistakes. It's just what we do.

 

3) My position is that if there is a god (or gods) she/he/they hasn't/haven't made him/herself/themselves known, and given the limited knowledge of the human race we've yet to be able to prove that such a being (or beings) exist (on the other hand, it's nigh impossible to prove nonexistence). Therefore such a being (or beings) must not want to be known, and the questions surrounding it must be merely academic, so I mostly don't care. Places to be, things to do!

I would love to believe in a God, but one that gave the explanation for intense suffering as it is out of his control, but that would make him not omnipotent, and thus, his street cred would be lost.

If Christianity, as I had believed in it, were true, I would be extremely happy about it.  For one, if I was really in need I could pray and get some help. Hateful Christians, like the one's who protest funerals, wouldn't prosper and so they would learn, eventually, that their way of doing things wasn't what Jesus would want.  I would feel bad about people who rejected Jesus, under those circumstances, but I would have a great ally in proving to them that he was real - perhaps I would be granted something as simple as an ability to detect sutble shifts in their emotions so that I could convince them the supernatural actually did exist and could be experienced through Jesus.  Yahweh and El would still kinda scare the hell out of me though.

I don't actually need science to support the supernatural - all I need is evidence of anything supernatural in order to think its even possible.  The whole 'supernatural' concept, however, seems to be nothing more than an invention of conmen who like to take money from dreamers.

My position is that I've never encountered evidence of anything supernatural.  The word 'god' hardly has any meaning to me anymore, since it's more of a general concept to refer to that which cannot be defined but which is hoped to be true.  If one god concept seems even remotely plausible to me, it migth be the god of Spinoza

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