Even though I am English, I still take an interest in American politics. At the moment, I am despairing that all the main players in this election all seem to be anti-gay and anti-abortion. It sickens me that we live in a world where, despite everything, all people are not equal and two millenia old superstitions still have a tight grip in politics. So here is my question:
As an atheist, who do you want as president?
Tags: 2012, GOP, america, bachmann, candidates, election, gingrich, huntsman, paul, perry, More…policies, politics, president, romney, santorum
Permalink Reply by Sassan K. on January 8, 2012 at 5:27am He is anti-American due to the fact that he blames America for 9/11 and ignores core Islamic ideology as the evil we face in the world. He is anti-American due to the fact that he would jeopardize the national security of the United States by lifting sanctions on Iran and allowing a regime that openly wants to bring an end to humanity (the "return of Imam Mahdi") to acquire nuclear weapons as a "natural right of theirs". The reality is, Ron Paul is not only anti-American but also anti-Semitic and clearly anti-humanity. His core followers also tend to be the most vile of individuals and conspiracy theorists and he never distances himself from them. Instead he cuddles with them and goes on their shows (such as the radical Alex Jones I believe it is) and indeed I believe him to believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy.
How else would you explain the following clip...? :
His other huge constituency of core supporters include but are not limited to the Nazi Stormfronters, the 9/11 truthers, the Islamic terrorists and their supporters, the Libertarian advocates of child molestation and hard drug legalization, and other enemies of western civilization.
Indeed Ron Paul is a loon and a conspiracy theorist of all sorts. Here is a quote from him: "This superhighway would connect Mexico, the United States, and Canada, cutting a wide swath through the middle of Texas and up through Kansas City. Offshoots would connect the main artery to the west coast, Florida, and northeast. Proponents envision a ten-lane colossus the width of several football fields, with freight and rail lines, fiber-optic cable lines, and oil and natural gas pipelines running alongside....
The ultimate goal is not simply a superhighway, but an integrated North American Union - complete with a currency, a cross-national bureaucracy, and virtually borderless travel within the Union. Like the European Union, a North American Union would represent another step toward the abolition of national sovereignty altogether."
Now to some more anti-humanity stuff: Ron Paul was one of only two congresspersons to vote against funding for malaria immunization and prevention in Africa which helps save millions of lives a year. Away from the vital humanitarian concerns which we simply cannot ignore (the costs involved are so miniscule as it is) but neglecting this region and allowing death to take over would create fertile grounds for Islamic radicals to gain a foot of a new terror haven. I consider that as both anti-humanity and anti-American.
In addition, during the height of the Green Revolution in 2009, Ron Paul was the lone House member to vote against a resolution "expressing support for all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties, and rule of law."
"The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer." - Theodore Roosevelt
And a rogue regime is a regime that rules against not only the will of their own people through totalitarian and oppressive means, but defies international law and human rights.
And I personally was hoping that Ron Paul would win Iowa as if he would have won Iowa, the media would have been able to finally scrutinize his record COMPLETELY in bringing it up to the media spotlight. And I am not talking about his racist newsletters (that's bad enough) but his atrocious positions, viewpoints, conspiracies, and record.
The party of Ronald Regean is not going to vote for an isolationist. He has a core group of very fanatical supporters who are very vocal. But the fact is he is capped at 20-25% despite the Democrats and Independents who have switched party labels to vote for him. He has ZERO chance. The best he can do is run as an independent and in doing so, he will take his fanatical supporters with him and he will be the cause of President Obama's reelection. I see this as a very real possibility.
Permalink Reply by Danny Sanchez on January 8, 2012 at 10:09am I think hard drugs should be legal and I am not an enemy of western civilization. And why would a north american union be bad... shit i wish we could have a planet union!
Permalink Reply by Sassan K. on January 8, 2012 at 1:16pm He was referring to a conspiracy in a negative light. What pops through his head is looney tunes.
I am also for the decriminalizing of drugs but it must be then with care. Ron Paul wants to do everything over night including getting rid of nearly every federal agency that we have including the FDA, the Department of Energy, and the Department of Education to name just a couple.
Permalink Reply by Danny Sanchez on January 8, 2012 at 5:37pm The FDA is a joke I have seen first hand what their auditors do.. Nothing
They just come in look at paperwork and leave a drug company could be putting rat poison in their medicine and the FDA would have no clue if it was not on the paperwork
Permalink Reply by erik112358 on January 7, 2012 at 8:08am I think we're seeing a lot of anti-Republican talk because all the Republican crazies are crawling out of the woodwork now for the election. We don't have that on the Democrat side since Obama will be the candidate for 2012.
Permalink Reply by Sassan K. on January 8, 2012 at 5:29am How about his former personal adviser saying that during a visit to a gay man's house he refused to use his bathroom. I found that comical and found his ex-personal adviser to be quite credible.
Permalink Reply by Mike on January 7, 2012 at 11:01pm The only 'liberal' news sources out there are a couple of hours on MSNBC and Current. The rest of of the 'news' sources out there are just as liberal as their corporate ownership allows them to be. Fox is blatantly biased toward their own agenda, which is not conservative and not Republican. Every other program, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS NYT etc all play the game of false equivalency. The best we can get from them is a Dems say this and Rep. say that, no analysis no research. They don't fact check and rebut blatant lies. They are simply the stenographers for the PR firms that the parties use to get their spin out.,
By all means Ron Paul, because every trip to the grocery store should be an experience in salmonella roulet. We can all just sit back and hope that it is someone else's kids that die of poison food so that the market can leap into action and drive that evil company out of business. Or at least buy their same poisonous crap under a different label the next time we get our groceries.
We don't need a Federal Dept of Education. Let Texas teach their kids creationism in science class and that Jefferson Davis was the first President of the United States. Calculus is a theory advanced by the Devil to distract us from the Holy Word.
Permalink Reply by erik112358 on January 9, 2012 at 7:29pm
Permalink Reply by Sassan K. on January 6, 2012 at 8:50pm Newt Gingrich is an astute historian, intellectual, and pragmatic man who understands the realities of the world. As for his more controversial positions, I think it is more for the pandering of his ignorant far right base. But Newt understands the threats we face from an enemy that wants to end human civilization, and I would trust him to be Commander-in-chief. BUT, at this point, I would vote to reelect President Obama but would wait until the debates to see Obama and Newt to go at it to decide who I would vote for. And people shouldn't discount Newt out yet, it will be a long primary season.
Permalink Reply by Stutz on January 7, 2012 at 1:27am I think you might be onto something with your evaluation of Newt. At least I hope so. It just bothers me that he has an ignorant far-right base that needs pandering to. I trust Obama's judgment more and think he is more impartial. Paul's got impartiality but not judgment. Romney is kind of an empty suit, but I wouldn't worry overly much if he ended up getting elected. I just feel like none of the Repubs is going to have much chance in the general election against the incumbent with some accomplishments under his belt. I think folks still generally like Obama despite the disappointments and will vote for him.
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