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Permalink Reply by Dustin on August 24, 2011 at 8:18pm

David Wolpe - He always sounds so fascinating and honest ... until you realize everything he says is based on personal beliefs and has no evidence.  But he means well.  He is a good guy and isn't a total DOUCHE to listen to and watch like William Lane Craig is. 

 

You can search his name on You Tube and find some good debates.  

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Permalink Reply by Mike Glickman on August 24, 2011 at 11:38pm

Interesting question, Erik. Shmuley Boteach is a very colorful guy to watch. I think he concedes on a lot of points that a logical person would. Of course, he's an orthodox Rabbi so the logic only goes so far, but I generally enjoy listening to the guy.

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Permalink Reply by Derek on August 25, 2011 at 1:40am

Boteach may be colorful but he is a know-nothing idiot who hasn't had an original thought... well ever,  and uses the same debunked non-sequiturs that his ilk have been spreading for centuries. He thinks the values of the founding fathers of the U.S were faith based, and he thinks atheism is a philosophy of nihilism.

 

I agree with Dustin - in that David Wolpe hasn't got that "facepalm effect" of other debators.

 

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Greg Gorey on August 24, 2011 at 11:44pm

the philosopher i respect the most is Peter Van Inwagen. I think all of the debaters are douches. 

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Permalink Reply by erik112358 on August 25, 2011 at 3:04am

Yeah, Wolp is OK.  Boteach I wasn't very impressed with.

 

This is kinda cheating the discussion I made, but I really liked listening to Robert Wright in this debate.  Except he claims to be "neutral" rather than pro- or anti-religion.

 

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Permalink Reply by jp laughlin on August 25, 2011 at 12:08pm

I respect Douglas Wilson to a degree. At least, his debates with Christopher Hitchens were the most thoughtful pro-religion arguments that I've seen. There is a film of their debates called Collision.

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Permalink Reply by Derek on August 25, 2011 at 2:56pm

I think Wilson is cannon fodder for any thinking person, but yea, I do respect him for not being a total douchebag.  If by thoughtful pro-religion arguments you mean implying that snakes might have talked @ 2:35 then by all means yes. A funny one.

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Permalink Reply by jp laughlin on August 25, 2011 at 5:12pm

Ha! It's possible that judicious editing portrayed him better and I fell for it. But still, he doesn't bother me as much as most.

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Permalink Reply by jp laughlin on August 25, 2011 at 5:35pm

Denys Turner, interviewed in the Atheism Tapes, isn't too bad either. http://youtu.be/sTx0TLp3Fu0

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