Where should we draw the line with regards to Animal Rights?

Where should we draw the line with regards to Animal Rights?

Yes, I am talking about Chickens/Cows/Fish/Medical test Animals.

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Should GE animals (Genetically Engineered) be treated any different? 

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What is the basis of your argument for this notion?
He has a special place in his heart for mammalian bipeds as well.
Could you imagine if you only had 1-6 months to live out your entire life?

Would I have the cognitive processing of a human or a chicken? The suffering implied by your question is dependent upon a continuous conception of time and projection of oneself into the future, of which I think a chicken possess neither.
I'm not saying that chickens have no cognitive capabilities. I think that there is a huge difference between the capacity to participate in a social order and the abstract processing necessary to fully comprehend and agonize over one's future predicament.

I fully agree that chickens raised for consumption or egg production require the adequate environment described by Adriana. My point is that once this physical suffering is removed, I do not think that the actual act of raising, killing, and consuming a chicken is morally wrong because the chicken does not conceive of the process in the same way as a human being.
The exact same argument could be made for humans.
The exact same argument could be made for humans.

How so?
Birth 'em in tubes, make sure they're physically comfortable, allow them to socialize amongst each other but not to know anything outside of the farm, and presto, "comfortable" humans ready for slaughter. Better yet, genetically engineer their cognitive abilities so they can comprehend life outside the farm. There, now it's flawless, no?
Birth 'em in tubes, make sure they're physically comfortable, allow them to socialize amongst each other but not to know anything outside of the farm, and presto, "comfortable" humans ready for slaughter

The point was about humans being able to agonize over the future in a way in which chickens cannot. You are talking about spatial awareness; my point was about temporal awareness.
These fantasies of animals being lovingly cared for until the day they are used for dinner is what promotes consumption; it's a lie.

How is it a lie? Small farms don't exist?
Small farms exist, but the masses aren't eating that, they're grabbing some taco hell, or kentucky fried growth hormone chicken, or big macs.

People eating factory-farmed meat is still not an argument against the existence nor the potential viability of small farms as an option for meat consumption. Perhaps if the nation as a whole refused to consume CAFO products, a shift towards small farms could become a reality. This would require reducing meat consumption, which is something that I know we both agree on. Personally, I think that we need to reduce our portions of all foods; America's gluttony yields problems far beyond the scope of animal rights.
I think that we should make sure that they have some room to move around and not too cramped, but yet efficent in things like egg farming. Not being cruel in slaughtering the animal. Fast and painless as possible.

However we should make sure that we dont anthropomorphise (give animals more human characteristics) then they actually have. Animals are animals and not humans, but allowing for the fact that the higher order animals not only feel pain but have emotions and feelings ie, Cats, Dogs, Pigs, Horses, Cows.
I would agree with you on terms of not being too cramped. Cleanliness is very important.

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