Alright, so a couple of days ago I was talking to a friend of mine in class. And we began to talk about religion. Now I'm far from the kind of person that likes to showcase my views on things, But I told him I was an Atheist. He Actually didn't believe me at first, and said that people have to take a oath to become an atheist. We literally argued about this for 5 whole minutes before I finally said lets go to an computer and get google the definition. after I showed him what atheism actually is, He still retained doubt. I just said forget it, and ended the conversation on it there.
What I'm asking is how long will people remain that ignorant on atheism. It's not like he's dumb when it comes to other topics. He says He's a christian and he never even read the bible. And when I told him and another friend I read it They Laughed. Oh yeah and I forgot to mention one of the guys laughing has a tattoo that says "blessed" on his chest. And he never read the bible. That's just stupid to me, But I kinda want to know what other people think about this.
Tags: Atheism, Christianity
Permalink Reply by Aleister Harvey on March 10, 2012 at 5:51pm Atheism is accepted and understood now more than ever due to the whole New Atheism movement. I've always identified myself as one and back in the day parents would tell their kids to steer clear of me because of my disbelief, that's it. It invoked fear (apparently i was an animal sacrificing, baby-eating, drug addict sodomite at the age of 14). Now people see it better, at least to moderates, and don't think the same way they did back then because of the New Atheist movement. People will always be dogmatized to believe anything other than your families religion is evil, and they will spin it in twisted ways.
There is hope now, if you're referring to when will atheism become a majority? I think humans would kill each other off before it happens, but optimistically it probably won't be at least up there with other religions for another century or two.
Permalink Reply by Melissa on March 16, 2012 at 12:47am They're ignorant about their "own" religion - "I'm christian but I ain't never read no bible!" Come on... really?! Those are the types who get the most bent out of shape about atheists and other "weirdo religions" that don't believe in the easter bunny or santa clause.
Permalink Reply by dr howard davis on March 16, 2012 at 7:32pm http://apologeticsuk.blogspot.com/search/label/William%20Lane%20Craig
There are some good sound intellectual sites that can show the 'God side' as this link will demo.Of course,not to everyone's satisfaction since it runs counter to one's beliefs.This goes for human beings anyway as we all select our beliefs which can be discussed.This is grand intellectual freedom.I am not an atheist ,but have roundly defended their rights,and tried to understands their thinking,etc.No one should be shunned in any way for their beliefs-that means both sides.
People understand truth but avoid...truth is atheism...
Permalink Reply by Wretched Saint on April 3, 2012 at 12:17am Unfortunate that this was their response. I think when we stop debating and start dialoging with one another. Trying to score points and land zingers does no one any real good. Os Guinness was write in his book on a lack of civility in the public square ---from either side(s).
Permalink Reply by Tom Sarbeck on April 3, 2012 at 9:53am Wretched, the debate here may be a result of the trauma religion caused in our lives.
As we adapt and become stronger, the debate becomes dialogue.
Permalink Reply by Tom Margolis on April 3, 2012 at 9:28pm 1. Being religious and believing in supernatural powers are two separate issues. I know atheist Jews who follow the rituals for cultural and social reasons but don't believe in gods; I know people who follow no religion but believe in supernatural powers.
2. Sounds like you are surrounded by extremely ignorant (not stupid, just uninformed) people. There are many regions of the country where most people are well-informed and well-educated, and thus understand atheism (whether they agree with it or not).
3. It's not stupid to self-identify as a Christian without having read the Bible. It's like self-identifying as a Democrat or a Republican without having read the Constitution - reasonable and common.
Permalink Reply by Tom Sarbeck on April 4, 2012 at 4:57am Without having read the Constitution, or without having read the party platform and seeing through the rhetoric to the reality?
BTW, the Constitution has rhetoric too, such as the 8th Amendment's "cruel and unusual punishments." I like to ask Constitutional literalists when punishment is cruel and when it's unusual.
Permalink Reply by William C. Walker on April 5, 2012 at 6:20pm The answer you'll get is whatever HE thinks is cruel or unusual.
Permalink Reply by William C. Walker on April 5, 2012 at 6:19pm " For thou shalt have no other gods," came forth the jealous call. I'll go a little further yet - I'll have no gods at all." .. Angeline Bennett
Permalink Reply by William C. Walker on April 5, 2012 at 6:23pm Mark Twain remarked that reading the bible was the best cure for Xianity
Permalink Reply by Meg Fields on April 8, 2012 at 10:26am Christians are generally very ignorant. My motto is if they actually read the bible, there'd be more atheists.
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