I once answered that question with "Their problems started when Reagan invited the religious right to join the Party and they were numerous enough to make "compromise" a dirty word."

I've since read some of the Party's history and now wonder if their problems began:

1. In 1948 when Dem Harry Truman defeated Eastern Repub Tom Dewey for the presidency,

2. In the 1950s when Birchers called President Eisenhower a communist because he was too liberal, or

3. In 1964 when they nominated Barry Goldwater and tossed moderates from the Party.

It's certainly no longer the Repub Party of Lincoln that freed the slaves.

How long before the Party splits or dies, or the Red States secede?

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When corporations were declared people? 

1795 seems a bit early.

Unfortunately they are already considered people in the eyes of the law.

1860. When Lincoln got elected and subsequently used the army to kill 20% of the US population and force the will of the federal government onto, until then, sovereign states.

I trace all of our failing as a constitutional republic back to him. And since the Republicans controlled congress (which is why the south suceeded), they enabled him by funding and supporting his illegal war.

Scott, you wrote either a good spoof or something else. If it was something else, did the Civil War start with one of these two actions?

1. The North's resupplying Fort Sumter.

2. The South's firing on Fort Sumter.

Or did it start with something else?

Scott:  The south wanted to overthrown the Union by force, that would be considered treason against the United States. But if I were a southern sympathizer, I wouldn't agree with that truth. So let's just understand that your view may not be the only one and leave it at that.

 Here's another

Did the Emancipation Proclamation free all the slaves in the United States? Many people think it did, but the Emancipation Proclamation did not free all the slaves in the United States and here is why. The Emancipation Proclamation didn't actually free any slaves because it related only to areas under the control of the Confederacy. The South broke away from the North, and President Lincoln couldn't make slave owners living in the Confederate states of America obey the Emancipation Proclamation. After the Civil War ended and the South became part of the United States again, the South had to obey Lincoln. The Emancipation Proclamation didn't include slaves in the border states and in some southern areas under the North's control, such as Tennessee and parts of Virginia and Louisiana. Although no slaves were actually freed by the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, it did lead to the 13th Amendment to the Constitution. The 13th Amendment became a law on December 18, 1865, and ended slavery in all parts of the United States.

But the South didn't succeed. It failed!

Yeah, the southern states seceded.

Eisenhower.  Read The Family by Jeff Sharlet.

Colleen, I heard of the book when Rachel Maddow interviewed Jeff but didn't know it mentioned Ike. It has good reviews so I ordered it from the public library. Thanks for the tip,

From Wiki:

My choice would be:

The States' Rights Democratic Party (usually called the Dixiecrats) was a short-lived segregationist political party in the United States in 1948. It originated as a breakaway faction of the Democratic Party in 1948, determined to protect what they portrayed as the southern way of life beset by an oppressive federal government

Granted I am no american (phew) but i do not see the red states succeeding, how could they financially when they are for the most part the biggest draw on federal money, they could not survive economically.

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