We've had countless discussions on here about the religious colloquialisms and sayings that others say that we tolerate (e.g. many don't mind something like, ("I hope you get better soon - I'll pray for you", or something as simple as "bless you" after a sneeze). But what about the other end of the spectrum?
What are the xian, or religious for that matter, sayings that drive you crazy or get under your skin? For instance, here are a couple of mine...
You get the idea.
Can't wait to read your thoughts on this!
@mohammed - that doesn't sound very submissive! If you haven't already, you might enjoy meeting some of these people:
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"America was founded on Christian principles"
My typical response (or something like it)-
To which specific "principles" are you referring? Christian "principles" seem to include a virgin birth, resurrection(s), vicarious redemption via human sacrifice (predicated on animal sacrifice), heaven/hell, judgment day, imaginary friends/enemies, magical thinking/superstition, prayer, homophobia, scientific illiteracy, etc. Which of these is in our Constitution?
Now, there's a fair amount of genocide and slavery in the Old Testament, and there was a signficant amount of that in the "founding" of the USA.
The only "Christian principle" that is worth anything, imo, is "do unto others." And that is not even a uniquely Christian concept and the USA was certainly not founded on "do unto others."
The only mention of god/religion in our Constitution is exclusionary - enough of the Christian rhetorical BS and Christian theocratic nonsense.
I just explained to my mom that the proofs for god are faulty and so belief in god is based on blind faith. Her response: "what's wrong with blind faith?" I mean really? After what's been going on recently in the Middle East...what's wrong with blind faith? Of course I quickly jumped at her saying that to point out what blind faith can produce - 9/11/01, 9/11/12. And then she says "oh that's just Islam"... bothered me off to no end that she wouldn't change her mind about blind faith being a good thing.
If you can equate 'blind faith' with 'stupidity', it might work, but you could be uninvited to Thanksgiving Dinner.
I did take part in a conversation, on a long trip to ski once. A woman that worked with retarded folks, attempted to build a case for such people being happier. I suggested that this could be true, but geting a prefrontal lobatamy to test the idea, would not be the smartest thing to do during an elected surgery! Your insurance carrier could see it as a good idea if you are wealthy, but uncovered if not. LOL
There was another conversation concerning the relationship between intelligence and depression. A few friends suggested that having too many brain cells could make humans morose and moody. Not knowing that you are going to die, that life sometimes sucks, and TV has gotten old, could be nice. No such luck....
Haha if I was going to be uninvited to Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner, I would have expected it to have happened a long time ago. They're still trying to get me to go back to catholicism...and meat.
It might just be that it's late but I have NO idea what you're talking about! lol sorryyy
No wonder I'm pessimistic? Maybe you're saying blind faith is good when it prevents apathy and keeps people happy... I don't know? But if that's its only function, there are plenty of other things a person can do which do not have the negative results of blind faith.
I was suggesting that 'blind faith' and 'stupidity' could be equated. 'Stupidity' could be equated to 'Ignorance'. If your mom would dislike be considered either 'stupid' or 'Ignorant', then kick back could happen. If 'Stupid' could be equated to 'retarded', and if retarded people are happier, then maybe 'blind faith' could be reasonable. Else we could be condemned to our morose/moody intelligence or elected psychosurgery. Under some conditions 'blind faith' might act like elected psychosurgery. After watching the Benny Hinn videos, this seems very likely. The American Psychlogical Association might like to know this, as well as the Religious Right. I expect that the NSA already has a file concerning this..;p)
You do realize that I am trying to 'make sense out of non-sense'. This is about the best I can do after two glasses of wine and rewatching the movie 'Powder', which is a tear jerker for me. Or maybe it was the home made plum sauce.....LOL
@JC -that was an incredibly beautiful movie about tolerance, in the vein of The Little Prince. It should be a classic, but few have ever heard of it.
Yes, 'The Little prince' is also one of my favorites. My HS english teacher compaired me to the Prince.
Over the last 12 years, it appears that I have married onto my asteroid, and even have placed a few demanding plants under glass. Our asteroid/hill seems crowded at times, but I can play the steward as the seasons roll. It seems clear that, while visiting other places can be enlightening, I would much rather stay on the asteroid where we seem far from the maddening crowd and socially accepted ugliness.
If it was not for the, most times, mis-placed value of money, I would just pursue my science and environmental hobbies. I am about to run another MFC experiment, this time with a Nickel catalyist.
Don't feel alone, money has never had any value for me, which likely explains why I never have any --
The most ridiculous, idiotic and insane comment is this one: "Well, everything happens for a reason!" This just infuriates me. For starters, whenever I hear people say this, something has just happened within their little world, they didn't get a job they wanted, or they attended a party that they didn't want to go to and then ended up meeting someone they enjoyed, etc. Let's look outside our narrow field of vision and test that theory. A child is kidnapped and murdered....what's the reason for that? How about a houseful of children dying in a house fire? Or thousands dying in a famine? A mother of five dying of breast cancer? A suicide bomber killing 25 people? Airplanes as weapons killing over 3,000? You're looking me in the eye and saying EVERYTHING happens for a reason? You have never given that statement any thought, have you? Just spouting it out cuz you heard someone else say it.
Yes, and thank 'god' that EVERYTHING does not happen for any reason, all at once!
For some reason everything, right now, just seems absurd. I try to stay away from amature disaster films or psycho-dramas.