We've had countless discussions on here about the religious colloquialisms and sayings that others say that we tolerate (e.g. many don't mind something like, ("I hope you get better soon - I'll pray for you", or something as simple as "bless you" after a sneeze). But what about the other end of the spectrum?
What are the xian, or religious for that matter, sayings that drive you crazy or get under your skin? For instance, here are a couple of mine...
You get the idea.
Can't wait to read your thoughts on this!
Even though it helps people, I feel weird when people say they're here for a reason or their prayers were answered. They thank gods instead of doctors or scientists or farmers. And why should a god alter the balance of the entire world to give you the right conditions, like good weather or a sports team winning? Surely, someone else prayed for the other team or prayed for rain. Why didn't theirs get answered?
I just don't think people are special enough to warrant changing the whole world.
during Christmas when i had to do a project for my school about christmass and i put Xmass on the poster and the students got down on me for haveing an x when in the report i said that the x=Christ.
Christmas time when i say happy holidays instead of "Happy Christmas" but im referring to all of the celebrations of all religions to be respectful
It really irks me when people say "God willing" as if to imply that we have no choice in the matter of whether something happens or not.
I hear ya', Most of the standard replies one hears, even in America, from people whose vocabulary is still mired in the 12th century disgusts me. Consistent with declaring my atheism some 25-years ago, after being a life-long skeptic and agnostic, I started to clear my vocabulary of all such ancient BS and references to gods, God, or any of that mythology-based verbal feces.
I grow weary of people thanking their god for solving a problem that, if he existed, he could have prevented to begin with. We are in the middle of a drought and yesterday we got less than an inch of rain. Everyone I spoke to in person and tons of people on Facebook were thanking their god for this miniscule amount of rain that we so needed. It wasn't enough and we needed it weeks ago but hey, gawd is good for giving us this tiny bit of rain. Seriously?
'I will believe for you.'
'I will pray for you.'
'Read X passage, it will help.'
'There is a christian men's group, here's their number.'
'Your brain will work better, if you believe in god.'
'Don't worry, god will cure me.'
'Would you like a copy of the Watch Tower?'
'We have desided that that is a settled truth!'
'You must be hard hearted to reject Christ!'
'Do you love your Mother? Yes! Prove it.'
Wrap your head around this: I had a guy tell me that I had to believe in God to not believe in God. My brain broke. I was like "The fuck? Is this guy for real?" I went over some of his past convos and realized he had the intelligence of a friggin' Amoeba...
@Gabriela - I'm certainly not a New Ager, in fact, I'm not sure I fall into any particular pigeon hole, but I do think that there's more to the philosophy you speak of, than you realize.
Let me offer you two hastily constructed scenarios, one general, the other more personal. Let's say you have one person, just living life as it comes - various things happen to him/her that aren't taken advantage of, because he doesn't have a clear goal. A second person may say, "I want to own my own home by the time I'm 30," or, "One day, I want to stand at the top of the Eiffel Tower in Paris." From that point on, every opportunity that arises, that could bring that person closer to his goal, is noticed and acted upon, whereas the first person may well have not perceived the occasions as significant.
On a more personal level, we, of both sexes, give off subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) signals when we're interested in someone. There are women, and I'm sure you know at least one, who are attracted to "bad boys," for the excitement and unpredictability. Such a woman will bypass a half-dozen "nice guys," deemed too boring, to get to the "bad boy," who, being misogynistic, uses her, dumps her, and leaves her cursing all men for the treatment she received. A more positive attitude would have been more likely to send out a different set of signals to less abusive men, that could well have led to a much more satisfying relationship. In this case, the thoughts actually did attract a certain type of person, because they chose that type of person as their goal.
I guess what I'm trying to say, poorly, is that if you're clear as to what you want, you'll focus on that objective, by-pass blind alleys that lead in unproductive directions, and come closer to achieving your goal (whether that objective is good for you or not, is another issue entirely). That's what I would consider a positive attitude. The opposite of that would be, "Oh, I could never do that (or attract a person like that), so why even bother to try?"
"As if a child born in most extreme poverty thought about it before being born and then he attracted it..."
No, but as that child matures, his attitude will play a large part in whether or not he remains in extreme poverty.
@mohammed - that doesn't sound very submissive! If you haven't already, you might enjoy meeting some of these people:
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It might interest you to learn that the member, "Hope" is from Saudi as well --
"America was founded on Christian principles"
My typical response (or something like it)-
To which specific "principles" are you referring? Christian "principles" seem to include a virgin birth, resurrection(s), vicarious redemption via human sacrifice (predicated on animal sacrifice), heaven/hell, judgment day, imaginary friends/enemies, magical thinking/superstition, prayer, homophobia, scientific illiteracy, etc. Which of these is in our Constitution?
Now, there's a fair amount of genocide and slavery in the Old Testament, and there was a signficant amount of that in the "founding" of the USA.
The only "Christian principle" that is worth anything, imo, is "do unto others." And that is not even a uniquely Christian concept and the USA was certainly not founded on "do unto others."
The only mention of god/religion in our Constitution is exclusionary - enough of the Christian rhetorical BS and Christian theocratic nonsense.