After my previous dicussion my brain almost melted trying to hold my own and bringing over my thoughts against a seemingly furious community. Still enjoying myself by the way.
So now I thought of a game ish discussion.
How would you deal with the next jehovah witness at your door?
Would you argue them?
Would you ignore them?
For sure argueing is the funniest.
For example try to use logic of human behaviour. Get them to admit that the easiest way to find a liar is by asking questions and waiting for someone to change their background story. Then ofcourse wack in some slick examples of how first the church banished science and is now addapting to its ideas.
Or you could go by logic-loop. Seeing as the bible is the word of god it is absolute. So if there was a contradiction in the bible it would undo all of existence. Then whip out Mozes and the 10 commandments and how they dont mean jack shit to jezus who will forgive you for anything but the denial of the existence of the holy spirit.
I am really interested as to how people would have their fun in an actual debate against the messengers of god.
I believe it is legal to squirt trespassers with a hose......ask them to leave, when they stick around to chat some more, pull out the hose!
I usually try to ignore them but if they see me in the house I go and tell them I am not interested. I always thought some kind of Atheistic slogan on the door might deter them, would love suggestions on that but maybe that should be another topic.....I'll go make it now!
Sry, we not interested in your mindless dogma.
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i can feel you on this one...my heart goes out to all the children
i was raised JW and it royally sucked. I had to give up my Saturday mornings and afternoons to go door-to-door (and gosh i so didnt' want to run into any of my school friends). At 16 i hauled ass out of there. :-D
i can say that i felt somewhat brainwashed.. thank goodness i now see the light.
To me the social factor for JW children is the worst....i could never attend any functions with friends that were not JW, i never had a x-mas, or a birthday... pft now that i think of it we didn't even have cable (so that we could not be influenced)
So if there's anyone that has tons to say to them... i have P-L-E-N-T-Y to say when they come knocking on my door.
i tend to discuss what they believe with them and only use their bible!
jw's are easy!! you only need ask them 3 questions, 2 of which they will be glad to share and the third they have NO answer for...
1) what verse is your faith founded on?
they will gladly answer Isaiah 43:10 -
King James Version (KJV)
10Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
I usually smile and say what a great verse that is..
then i ask them
2) what does it say in John 1:1?
to which they will read -
King James Version (KJV)
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
their bible spells the last word god, not God meaning they don't agree with the translation of theos used in both instances. their bible tells them that it must be translated as deos or god in the generic sense or jesus MUST be God as well as he made that claim. so, that leads to ...
3) to which other god are you refering to??
any answer they give you will be wrong and NOT a sanctioned answer by the Watchtower society. there is no answer as they choose to ignore all the rules of greek to fit their theology...
then they smile and leave and i am never bothered again!