What is your take on extraterrestrial intelligences, have you seen "UFO"s , or even been in one if you lucky and caught by a surprise ? Have you met any people from other planets ? Or simply if you have not, what are your thoughts about the topic, and would you like to have an experience ?

Do you believe in the existence extraterrestrials ? (Belief is based on faith or trust without looking at the evidence, data, mathematical models, that is because your friend saw something, and you trust your friend, without research, that is belief)

Do you understand the existence of extraterrestrials ?

(Understanding is based on collecting data , evidence, mathematical models such as drake equation, astrobiology research etc and deriving a conclusion)

Do you know the existence of extraterrestrials ?

(That is when you have had your own personal experience, scrutinized it to be legitimate experience, as well as comparing your experience with other's evidence data and so on)

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I've already stated that a second camera could be used and superimposed - you must be daft to fail to understand that concept.  Why are you prattling on about cranes?

I'm aware of your delusions about ETs, and as far as such delusions go, you are correct in surmising that I've seen fuck-all.  I've seen some interesting things while really high - but I had enough insight to know I was seeing those effects because I was high.  I wouldn't expect other people to believe such things were real.

I am not pratteling, I am saying from the observation of the light beam, its shining down by its source which is above, can you not see that ?  The last parts are edits where it has been zoomed in to reveil closer detail :/

delusions, that is your opinion, you are again assuming me -_-

Playing daft again, are you?  The light could easily be someone waving a flashlight - video taken of them doing so and then superimposed over the first video.  I know your desire to validate your own beliefs makes it hard for you to admit such things are possible - but you must realize that those campy 50's ET movies weren't actually alien invaders, right?  You do know that they flew around pie plates on fishing line, right?

You that one thats playing daft ... waving the flashlight, if they were they would be dangling from the sky such as a crane -_- I dont believe anything, but I know from my past experiences.. how much do I have to fucking repeat myself over and over...

Repeatedly ignoring the possibility of a second video being superimposed doesn't lend to your credibility there.

If the person making this video would have just invested in some readily available software they could have produced something must more spectacular - something like this...

If they did construct a hoax, they did a pretty good job of it... because its very realistic

Yes - they put a lot more effort in than the hoaxsters that created the vid you linked.  That is the sort of quality available when one is willing to at least put in an effort.

An explanation would be needed were it a convincing or even plausible video to start with.

It is not.

Yes, I saw that beam of light, illuminating whatever was below. The big problem was the starless dark - where were the stars? That led me to believe the film may have been made on a set.

Much of the action of the original, Chris Reeve "Superman" movie took place at night, as did much of "King Kong," and other movies made before digital graphics became commonplace, because a lot of wires and otherwise discernible errors can be hidden by the darkness.

Truth is, I don't know what I saw - I'm willing to keep an open mind, but I'm bothered that I didn't see any stars.

I believe what the author of the above two videos is saying, is that there are two satellites in question, each at a different angle from the other, and hence producing two fields of view. He's saying that jcattera is maintaining that the images are from one satellite, while the logo on the video would indicate that it is from the other. He's saying that by falsifying the source, jcattera is also falsifying the camera angle and consequently, the field of vision, which could result in misidentification of the objects within that field, if it were believed that the camera angle was other than what it actually was.

I am not interested in what he believes  and think what he saw and caught on camera, I am more interested in what was caught on the video.

Corny effects were caught on the video - corny effect generated by someone who has whacky beliefs they would like to propagate - so beliefs play a part of it.


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