What is your take on extraterrestrial intelligences, have you seen "UFO"s , or even been in one if you lucky and caught by a surprise ? Have you met any people from other planets ? Or simply if you have not, what are your thoughts about the topic, and would you like to have an experience ?

Do you believe in the existence extraterrestrials ? (Belief is based on faith or trust without looking at the evidence, data, mathematical models, that is because your friend saw something, and you trust your friend, without research, that is belief)

Do you understand the existence of extraterrestrials ?

(Understanding is based on collecting data , evidence, mathematical models such as drake equation, astrobiology research etc and deriving a conclusion)

Do you know the existence of extraterrestrials ?

(That is when you have had your own personal experience, scrutinized it to be legitimate experience, as well as comparing your experience with other's evidence data and so on)

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Lack of evidence.  Both your claims are based on personal experience.

So, I have experienced things well enouph to know they not paranormal but people live on other planets, it is even logical if my evidence I shared is not good enough evidence. I know my evidence is poor.. I am not trying to convince you to believe me which you may be thinking I am, but seriously throwing extraterrestrial life under the heading of paranormal is just stupid,its like throwing chemistry and physics into a harry potter novel, and I think its exactly what the governments etc like... as they are sitting on a shitload of evidence.

I'm not throwing the possibility of extra-terrestrial life into paranormal - I'm throwing your stark raving mad ravings about your delusions into the same bucket as all the other paranormal bullshit that nutballs spew on about.

How is your claim any different than the claim of some other whacko who claims to have met Zeus?

sigh... i wish i did not live on this stupid planet in the first place...

I know that - hence your delusions about being from another planet, or having friends there, or whatever.

From your logic, Heather... I could say you are more of a delusion because I have never seen you in person, I never grabbed your hand , never heard your voice and never smelled your body scent...and never felt you pull my hair... but only seen your avatar and words on a computer screen.

I'm certain that in your muddled mind the people communicating with you on this social networking site are nowhere near as real as the alien boogiemen with whom you drink intergalactic tea.  Why then, do you even bother with phantoms such as us when your ET friends seem so vivid to you?

Danielle, I see way too many patterns in that black and white photo. It almost looks like a bunch of line drawings, with dots on the lines and the lines faded out.

I'm not here to put anyone down. Just pointing out that that graphic doesn't like like a field of stars, to me.

Several years ago I had considered writing a short paper on the philosophical effects of the discovery of alien intelligence. I floated this idea with a prof. in the Philosophy department, and he suggested that it might be a bad career move. I had planned to deliver the paper before a local conference, but finally decided against it. I even brought the idea before the department's Philosophy club, but it also was poorly received.

I did find this an odd state of affairs, since we seemed to be able to consider everything else including the Mass Extinction debate, Global Warming, Suicide Rights, LGBT civil rights issues, etc. I did notice that many students seemed to consider theist issues on par with the Alien Intelligence question, with decidability and evidence the primary hangups.

It seems that most anything could be said about an alien intelligence, but little of any value. I have since found video presentations concerning the 'science' of exobiology, with lots of good material worth a look see. As extream environmental conditiontions are explored on this planet, life makes  a presence, opening up possibilities. Saying 'what is possible', in the light of this growing science seems premature. 

I repeat my question: Why do you imagine the government feels it's important to keep extraterrestrials secret?

Invoking the Inquisition is rather lacking in explanatory value.

There are NO space aliens visiting the planet Earth.

There are NO doGs.

Prove me wrong.

ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp keeps referring to her own supposed personal experiences, but if we are going to start accepting personal experiences people think they have had, not only will we be accepting the existence of extraterrestrials, but also God, angels, ghosts, and a long list of other things we don't believe in.

She doesn't like the more realistic explanations of delusional episodes, misperceptions, dreams, being punked, etc.

If I just accepted my perceptions as is without trying to fit them into a rational framework, I'd have to believe that that mirage I see on the highway in front of me on a hot day is water on the road.


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