It's a bit early for Obama to be a "lame duck President," but clearly that's his situation now.

He's failing to lead. His most recent appointees (Hagel and Kerry) seem to bumble along. The current "solution" to the WMD situatiion in Syria seems to have been a Kerry brainfart which has put Vladimir Putin in charge of American foreign policy.

He seems insular, seems to want to go on his own without interfacing with Congress, even members of his own party.

He seems lost. I almost wonder if he's starting to talk to the paintings of past Presidents, seeking their advice much as Nixon is alleged to have done.

I'm starting to wish the choice had been between Hillary Clinton and John McCain/Mitt Romney. I can't see her in the situation Obama is in.

I was proud that we elected a black President, and in no way will I vote for a Republican for President without a fundamental transformation of their philosophy, but I must say I'm depressed.

Anyone else with me?

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I don't see a pejorative.

There's never any harm in keeping a discussion open.

Or perhaps the younger people understand that the move to fundamentalism in the Middle East is a response to the West imposing "army camp Israel" in their midst and "helping" a sectarian culture by "developing" their oil industry and "westernizing" them. This includes setting up pro-western "presidents" and supplying them with arms and tons of money. They invariably become nasty dictators, each and every one and turn on us when their heads get big.

I really wish we would get going on clean, alternative energy and just get the hell out of there. I hate to say it but it's a another Obama initiative that sorta fizzled.

The other thing about the Middle East is big showdown, end of times, Armageddon, xtian second coming, jewish first coming, Islamic fix-up, dragons, fire, locusts, and nukes that the religious are all working towards.

Does anyone on this forum want to be party to that.?

Bush: "God Told Me to Invade Iraq". Holy Fuck! That's our foreign policy.

Just about all the sins you enumerate I agree with, but won't going isolationist at this point just make them feel victorious and encourage them to challenge us in other areas?

And in the end, isn't it us or them?

Yeah, still waiting for that "Apollo" like approach to alternative energy. That's not happening anytime soon.

Notice you but didn't say the US should have unilaterally attacked Hitler with a token strike to 'teach him a lesson' after he took Czech.

Right, Kerry was ridiculous in asserting that the strike being planned would be "unbelievably small."

He had too many submarines... And no one had rockets yet in 1939.

I am not advocating a retreat into isolationism.  Just letting the rest of the world go its way while we go ours internally.  Of course we should engage in international relations.  We just should not think that we can solve any problem by sending in the bombs.

We can't solve another country's problems.  So let's concentrate on solving ours.

Surprise, Unseen; I'm with you, except that Hillary is too conservative for me.

It came to me last night: What the GOP is doing might be called 'the Jimmy Cartering of Barack Obama."

The GOP worked out a deal with Iran to release the diplomatic hostages and didn't cash in that chip until the moment Carter was out of office, making Reagan look more effective his first week in office.

That's good. "the Jimmy Cartering of Barack Obama." Might be on to something.


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