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Permalink Reply by Natalie on May 29, 2011 at 4:32pm

I've never really asked a question like that. But I have corrected my pastors attempt to teach astronomy. He was giving a sermon on how absolutely perfect the universe was made just for us. He said that the earth floated in the perfect spot in our solar system, and if the earth should move off course even an inch we would all burn or freeze.
I was in complete disbelief. My parents must have sensed it too sense every time I tried to raise my hand during this rant it would be ripped down by my step mother. I eventually gave up until I had to shake his hand when leaving.

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Permalink Reply by Dan on June 11, 2011 at 6:56am

That argument is as old as dirt, my mom still tries to use it every time we bring up religion, despite accepting the elliptical orbit every time, and the idea of a Goldilocks zone. Religious people seem to be chronically forgetful about how bad their arguments are.

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Permalink Reply by Dave G on June 11, 2011 at 3:57pm

Forget the elliptical orbit, the simple rotation of the Earth would bring points on the surface closer (and farther) from the sun than an inch. Not to mention differences in elevation. Such arguments are only made by those who have not even pretended to think about them.

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Permalink Reply by surgoshan on June 11, 2011 at 8:56pm

It's possible he was using hyperbole.  But, yeah, even then he's kind of a tard.

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Permalink Reply by Chris on May 29, 2011 at 4:49pm

I think their being "the faithful" is the worst excuse. It implies the demand that something which cannot, in fact, be known IS. That excuses every stupid thing that emanates from their persons.

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Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on May 30, 2011 at 12:46am

I occasionally get them backed into a corner on the issue of evidence.  When I really get them nailed down on there being zero evidence, nothing physical that can ever be measured or quantified, I have been lucky enough to hear - "There are a lot of things about reality that you don't even know, how do you know that the reality you are so sure of isn't just a nightmare!?"  My response: "If it is, then you and your bible are a figment of my imagination, therefore I am your god."

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Permalink Reply by Jason Ward on May 30, 2011 at 2:08am

I do believe I'll be stealing that one.

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Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on May 30, 2011 at 2:13am

The set-up is rare but when the opening presents itself it sure is a doozy.  Another one is when they say evil is just a byproduct of freewill - ask them if there is freewill in heaven. :D

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Permalink Reply by Jason Ward on May 30, 2011 at 2:39am

The lengths people will go to in order to hold onto the myth really is astounding.

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Permalink Reply by Chris on May 30, 2011 at 8:14am

When they trot this out I generally can't help but start an argument about what that phrase means and whether they even understand the nature of the problem. Because I am a dick.

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Permalink Reply by Nathan Palo on June 3, 2011 at 12:14pm

Nothing beats turning there own flawed logic against them.

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Permalink Reply by Aimee Eisiminger on June 7, 2011 at 10:27am

Good one

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