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Permalink Reply by David on April 30, 2010 at 2:02pm

I read most of it but there was a degree of redundancy and a time crunch

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Permalink Reply by Cara Coleen on April 30, 2010 at 4:15pm

I hold that if someone sees the good they ought to do and do not do it they are doing evil

By your very own definition, God himself is evil.... and we are, after all, created in his image. How can we be expected to do what he does not?

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Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on April 30, 2010 at 4:30pm

By his own definition, I'm struggling as to why he is playing online when he could be volunteering at a soup kitchen or doing charity work. If he's doing good works on a computer right now, he could use the energy spent in this discussion of improving those good works. There's lots of good that could be done that would more obviously bare fruit than this thread.

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Permalink Reply by Cara Coleen on April 30, 2010 at 4:42pm

Oh, he already admitted in another post that he's not doing what he can and knows it... but he likes making us feel bad that we're not helping (or assumes we're not). And he called me a hypocrite when I don't feel responsible (though I do feel compassion and want to help). I don't think he knows what the word "hypocrite" means.

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Permalink Reply by David on April 30, 2010 at 5:15pm

Here is what you have said.

God(if he exists) is evil because he is capable of preventing starvation but doesnt

You have admitted that you could help[ prevent starvation and dont do everything you are capable of

By your definition of evil you are evil

I admit Im evil btw

Taking this a step further you have also said God should eliminate evil
since by your definition of evil you are evil God should also eliminate you according to you

Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on April 30, 2010 at 5:27pm

I see, I see. I find it difficult to keep up with his poor language skills, lazy arguments and general inconsistencies.

I saw his hypocrite comment towards you and found it a little unsettling. This is in part because it was cretinous of him, but also because it contains a level of irony that is almost (frustratingly) too big to put into words.

Permalink Reply by David on April 30, 2010 at 5:21pm

Because Im evil

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Permalink Reply by Cara Coleen on April 30, 2010 at 5:45pm

Try to think abstractly, please. And remember when YOU make statements and I follow them to their conclusion.

By YOUR definition, not mine, God is evil. I never said that if people fail to do good when they can do good, that makes them evil, you did.

I also never said I do not help. I do, however, claim I don't have to help, but I feel inclined to help. I like helping. But, being mortal, I cannot do very much. And I'm not going to ruin myself in an attempt to help.

God can eliminate suffering in one fell-swoop but does not. God could end suffering right now and would not lose anything; he would not have to worry about going into debt or going bankrupt or going hungry. He's God, after all, and has more resources than a mortal, limited human. He does not do even close to what he could. Yes, that makes him evil or, at best, indifferent (according to YOUR definition of evil).

Assuming God does not exist, I obviously cannot hold him responsible for all the suffering in the world, and I don't. I don't live by the same standards you do, David, and I don't believe I'm evil. I know I'm not perfect, and I try to do good sometimes... but, like I've repeated over and over, I'm not a martyr. I will not put myself at risk because I value my own life and believe I have as much right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as any other human.

You're the one who believes you're evil. You're the one who believes people are evil if they don't do everything in their power to help others. According to your definition, God is evil... not I. I think he's your imaginary friend.

Permalink Reply by Mario Rodgers on April 30, 2010 at 10:31pm

This whole thread is getting trashy. Go ahead and play the "forgive me for being a broken, fallen, evil human" card for all I care. Just don't smear that shit on the rest of us.

Permalink Reply by David on April 30, 2010 at 5:17pm

So a 6 month old that can't talk or walk. Starving to death. What did he do to deserve that?

I dont know but the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence

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Permalink Reply by luvtheheaven on April 30, 2010 at 5:21pm

So you're saying he might have done something to deserve it. What the hell is wrong with you?! How can you twist your mind into justifying such evils in the world? I can't understand that. You need to make a real scientific hypothesis as to how the baby could have done something to deserve it. Seriously. What are 6 month-year-olds capable of and which of these things are punishable sins. If you can't think of anything, then there is a very good chance that your logic makes no sense and the kid couldn't have done anything to deserve it.

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Permalink Reply by David on April 30, 2010 at 5:26pm

I dont know anything about this I dont kn ow if they did something wrong or not

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