A friend of mine posted this on facebook. Of course this kid was the biggest, shady drug addict and thief when he was a teenager. Then he "found god". I try really hard to ignore shit like this the best I can. What would you guys do? Not specifically for this actual posting, just in general. When people you know post crap like this online, or you overhear friends making snarky comments what do you do? I didn't comment on this. It's kind of funny. If it was malicious, then I would have. 


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Meghan, I would not post in his wall. Just de-friend him or "shut him up" by unsubscribing from his updates (you can now do that). No point in answering - he will not change - it would mean that he left the drugs for nothing! :-)

 

My two cents' worth...

That sounds like the Christian thing to do… run away in offense and de-friend someone for presenting an unfavorable opinion. I’d like to think we’re better than that.

 

Personally, I’d take the opportunity to educate them on what atheism actually is and pursue the resulting discussion. This type of behavior and animosity towards atheists comes from pure ignorance and fear. None of that will be alleviated if we don’t take the opportunity to engage in discussion and educate.

That's the way to do it...nice and gentle, leading them forward without them hardly realizing it until they've stumbled into a new discovery.  Otherwise they become defensive out of pride or fear and completely close their mind off.

   Nelson's reply is right on point; I wish I'd said it.

   So then, what do I do? I post comments like the following:  

   No, our knowledge of the universe does not yet make perfect sense.  But, unlike the fantasy-based god conjecture, it makes SOME sense.  Thanks to the scientific method and the courageous striving of scientists, we get closer every day to making sense of everything.  Science expands toward the future; cowardly religion retreats into the past.  Religion makes NO progress; it seeks NO truth; it ABHORS the truth; it is stuck in the bronze age where it HIDES from the truth.  It shrinks fearfully in its medieval bunker where it conjures up supernatural visions of a WISHED-FOR truth.  Science does experiments to get CLOSER to the truth; religion burns witches to ESCAPE the truth. And what is that inevitable truth?  We are ALL going to die and cease to exist in ANY WAY.  Get over it!  

Actually, I get more of a kick out of this one. 

 

Be playful; toy with them.  

Oooh...so beautiful. 

people who post stuff like that are just baiting those who don't agree and pandering to those who do agree with them. . .your response will not likely change their pov. . .but if you feel strongly about it then give a logical, thought-out, unemotional answer

 

or you could just "hide" and not have to read that crap :)

A weak mind looks for an all encompassing answer.

Fear of the unknown and the unknowable creates the need for those

that are weak minded, to believe in the universal "sky Daddy".

 

I just love the whole intelligent design argument.

Makes about as much sense in explaining something as

why pancakes taste great with butter and maple syrup.

 

The FACT is...no deity was necessary.

Then again...maybe that deity is physics?

More answers are to be found there, then within a bible.

 

 

On facebook and wherever online I generally ignore things like this. I tend to respond only when someone comments on something I wrote. Stuff like this doesn't really mean anything, at least to me. It's bumper sticker stuff, not philosophically important.

When confronted with things like this, my philosophy is "Temper your integrity with compassion." But when in doubt, I guess I act like someone working in a mental health facility-- let it go if it doesn't harm anyone.

I only really speak up when it concerns children. I'd just about crucify someone for indoctrinating kids because I consider it mutilation and know how sick it makes the world, but short of that I usually just do what some other people posting here do; throw in some short and light sarcasm and go to sleep telling myself that their silliness is dying out with them.

And yet, indoctrination doesn't work in the end, does it? Most of us were probably indoctrinated and probably spent some years as believers. It isn't indoctrination which keeps people religious, it's mental inertia and sloth, liking the social aspects of going to church, and of course...fear of death.

Yeah but I'd say the "mental inertia" works in atheism's favor as well. Indoctrination has become exponentially less effective since the dawn of the age of information. The religious teachings being passed down are gradually diluted from generation to generation. People just don't care enough to preserve the teachings in their original context (Islam being the most resilient) because it's just not convenient for anyone living in a society as progressive as ours to go around treating women as if they're inferior, owning slaves, and bashing babies against rocks. It's ironic, but I'd argue that you can thank or blame America's laziness for religion's decline.

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