I don't want this to be a chance for you to tell me what is wrong with the theocratic abscess burrowed; the thorn in your side or the vacant imperfection imposed upon the resident scapegoat. I care not to afford you the opportunity to lick your wounds in my sight or to appease the cultural norms subscribed.

Without the fear on the other side of the fence nor the ruckus in the alley way I want you to tell me what the benefit of an atheist lifestyle is had the social and political majority not absolved you and the necessary protestation of that artificial insemination had manifested itself in hindsight.

In other words, had there been no myth where would you see yourself rather than where would you see yourself in light of it.

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@pat the "A" in Atheism means with out.

"The main danger of atheism is the likelihood of its becoming a religion in its own right,..."

I've heard it said "Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby". It's true. Atheism notes what we don't believe not what we do believe.

"how can it remain fundamentally non-religious,..."

Not hard at all: Don't be religious or have a belief in god.

"...as is the very idea at its core, when, alas, it has all the data, and all the traits common to, and characteristic of,..."

I think the word "all" is a bit strong here. Obviously the belief in god is non existent. Among others. Just because religions have borrowed from certain philosophies doesn't make those philosophies inherently religious. Any tool can be a weapon depending on how you use it.

"For atheism is, no matter how they might understand it, an anti-philosophy, a meta-philosophy, but a philosophy nevertheless."

  Again "philosophy" isn't synonymous with religion. It is simply a lack of belief. Assuming you don't believe in pixies would you call this your philosophy on pixies? Do you believe in "magolotonicatronicon"? You shouldn't. I just made it up. You've never had to consider that before. Would you say that because you don't it is you philosophy or that your non belief has all the trappings of a religion?

 No matter how you might understand it, not posting isn't the same as posting.



You only THINK you just made it up, I've been worshipping it and sacrificing ground squirrels to it for years!  Clearly this is a sign!!

Are the ground squirrels virgins?

Damfino.  magolotonicatronicon never specified to me that they had to be.

You might experiment a bit to see where you get better results. Have fun checking those mean little fuckers though.

I suspect it's really a trick to get us to make human blood sacrifices without realizing it.

Good looking out. The bigger problem is that any ground squirrel one can easily catch is most likely sick with disease or parasites. The transfer of these make me wonder if that is not the true identity of magolotonicatronicon.

Of course one can  sacrifice them with either a 22 rifloe at range or by playing a clarinet so badly the high pitched squeals make them explode (Altissimo D works wonders).  No need to catch them, then.

jared, I agree, any tool can be a weapon depending on how you use it.

Use the word "atheism" with the words of religion ("must" and "cannot" to name but two) and atheism can serve purposes similar to those of religion.


Words of religion: (archaic) thou shalt, thou shalt not; (modern) must, cannot.

Habits die slowly and some formerly-religious atheists still use those words of religion.

I'm still not quite clear on your point or if there is a low swinging branch that I'm suppose to be walking into.

 I'm trying to picture me (formerly) religious walking into a gas station, saying "Thou shalt give me $20 on pump ten." It's not working.

 I guess I wonder if there is something specifically in this post that you are referring to or if it's just a general statement.

NM I think I see what you were getting at now Tom. ;)


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