The title says it all, was Jesus the right choice? To give a little back ground Jesus was not the only Messiah during the firt century. There were many others claiming to be the child of God, so why was Jesus picked out of the hay stack?

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Because it was King Constantines favorite story out of all the other stories going around so he decreed that this is the religion that his subjects should embrace.

But there is no evidence that Jesus ever existed.

The story according to the bible is that he fullfilled a prophesy.

 Ok i didnt copy and paste that from Word so why did the text come out black again ... *sigh*

Some Christian has prayed that your text show up black intermittently. Proof of the existence of God.



So where DID you copy and paste from? One must assume that you didn't type that directly into the TA editor.

@Angela, if that happens again, while you still have 15 minutes to edit your mesage, open it back up and click the HTML tab on your TA message toolbar, and you will be taken to the HTML code inside your message - look directly in front of your text, and you will see a string of letters in a bracket, similar to this: <string of letters>

Within those brackets will be an "F#" followed by some numbers - the numbers tell the computer what colors to use for the lettering. Highlight the entire set of brackets, including anything that is within them, then delete it and your text should appear normal.

Whatever you're pasting from has HTML instructions already built into it for black lettering, and it simply transfers that to TA's server.

Well most ancient historians would go so far as to say that a man named Jesus who claimed to be the son of god existed around the first century. There are accounts from Roman soldiers of this man and other accounts from the bible and a few other Jewish scribes. The prophecy angle was interesting because he was supposed to fulfill a few prophecies. If you are interested they were to bring the 12 Jewish tribes together, cleanse the temple, die on the cross (for our sins supposedly), and there are a few others. I never thoughts about the King Constantine angle though, very interesting :)

Hi Sam

There are absolutely no first hand accounts from anybody that the Jesus of the NT ever existed.

Remember, the Gospels are all "According to Mark - According to Paul etc

The first of the Gospels were written aprox 30 years after the supposed crucifixion and the latest were written almost 100 years after. So these are not first hand accounts.

There were stacks of Roman historians who were writting first hand accountsof what was happening in Rome at that time and those stories tie in.

We know for sure that Caesar existed - We have signitures, busts, coins, letters etc to verify this.

Jesus was also supposed to be living in this time so, for someone who was causing such a stir, why didnt anyone mention him?

You will also hear a lot of Christians saying that a man named Josephus wrote first hand accounts about Jesus but this is not true either because we know that Josephus was born 10 years after the crucifixion.

Jesus was a carpenter so, couldnt he have at least left us a table with his name scratched in it or something.






Regarding your heading "Was Jesus the Wrong Choice"

If the Jesus that we read about today was the 'wrong' choice then why didnt the real one step forward?

Cant you just see that in a Monty Python sketch?

I thought they did have something like that. If not, I think it would be a good one!
It's not surprising to me that there aren't any first hand accounts of Jesus outside of the bible. As for the comparison to Julius Cesar, he was a king and ruled over an entire country. Jesus was a criminal who had to hide from the eyes of the Romans. There are many second hand accounts of Jesus and all the historians and ancient history teachers (I'm a student of ancient history) would go so far as to say there was a man named Jesus claiming to be the son of God. Now if we were talking about physical proof of Jesus ever existing I would call bullshit on that because the most popular thing people like to point to (the shroud of turin) was debunked. You bring up good points, but with all the people running around during the first century claiming divine power the existence of a man named Jesus during this time is not so far fetched.


Jesus was only called a criminal toward the end of his life. He had a pretty good run before that,

He performed miracles. He fed 5000 people on just 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish.

Mathew 14: 3-21

and not one of those 5000 wrote about it?



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