I'm predicting that the President will get a second term despite slightly losing the general vote, all due to America's wacky Electoral College system. In other words, the reverse of the Bush/Gore election.

Maybe this will be the impetus to get rid of the wacky Electoral College thing.

What's your prediction?

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In some respects I definitely agree with you. I don't think anything will get done to really reduce the deficit let alone move towards balancing a budget with four more years under Obama. Guantanamo will probably stay open even after he leaves office. Deadlock in Congress will undoubtedly continue.

The drones... when it comes to Al Qaeda and the Taliban, they don't play by rules. In guerrilla warfare, total eradication of the enemy is the only way that one can be sure they won't come back. When it comes to war, the more rules we play by, the more we handicap ourselves against an enemy who plays by far less rules. You may not like the drones, but in the end, they are an astoundingly effective tactic for the kind of operation we are conducting. The pentagon will only stop using drones to attack enemies on foreign soil when it becomes ineffective, which is not going to happen anytime soon.

In the end, Obama and Romney share one thing in common that is undeniable. They are both extremely practical men and govern in a practical manner. In that respect, one is likely to be as good or bad as the other.

Well the drone strikes may be "effective", but they are immoral. They target a building that has a suspected terrorist in it based on shotty information and then they kill everyone in that building. Including the children. Then, they do what is known as a double tap which means they hit the same spot again about 20 minutes later, you know, when all the good Samaritans are rushing in to try to save the injured people inside. This way we kill people trying to "aid terrorist". This is just highly immoral. And we can talk about congress, but the thing is that the commander in chief must sign off on these types of strikes. He/she alone has the power to stop or allow it. 

The terrorist may not play by the rules, but that does not mean we do not need to. 

It's referred to as "collateral damage."

War can't be moral. What logic is there in losing what one feels is a just war because winning it would be immoral, thus subjecting oneself, one's mate, one's children, one's family to subjugation, torture, or death? Would anyone give up their claim to their lands if all it took to keep them safe was to do something obviously "immoral"? 

This idea that war can somehow be right and honorable and still winnable is so much nonsense. One's only task upon entering war is to win, by whatever means spares the fewest of one's own kind. When one enters into war, one has to throw morals out the window.

War is always brutal, ugly, and wasteful but it can be moral (or at least just) under some circumstances, such as when inaction would lead to greater harm.

For instance, the morality of war seemed questionable when George W. Bush sent U.S. troops marching into Iraq like he got them for Christmas.

But it would have seemed less moral to do nothing while Nazi Germany's Holy Reich conquered England and all of Europe by force, while exterminating millions of Jews, Romanies, Homosexuals, Democrats, and dissidents in the process. FDR made the right call on that one.

I expect that third party candidates will be more appealing the next time around.

The next president will need to deal with the 'junk-pile' of the NY/east coast area now. If the last east coast storm is any indication of the things to come, politics could become the least of our worries. 

I'm Canadian and won't vote, but I hope to hell that Obama wins, because Romney scares the crap out of me.  Anybody who devotes their lives to a religion created in the past 200 years should be committed, yet he has a chance at being the most powerful man in the world. All religion is crazy, but Mormonism is extra crazy.

Agreed!  How the hell can we think that a man who believes in magic underwear should run the country?  I mean OMFG terrifying. 

rflmao - kk

I second that. I am amazed that he manages to trump up that much support to begin with.

I blogged this a while back but maybe it was too early. There is a Mormon mission house across from my house. New guys every few months all dressed the same, what a shame. But they are far out and way more deluded than the other cults. Anybody a bit uneasy at the prospect of a fundamentalist in the White House or is it just me? Yes, Brother President.

BTW, I currently live in the only state that actually matters in this election, at least according to the "experts." I live in Ohio. If you live in Indiana or New Mexico, how does it feel to know that your vote is so taken for granted that it (pardon my street lingo) don't mean diddly-squat?

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