Read this online.....anyone else watching the series and then seeing it turn to "they all went to heaven"?


"Lost Season Finale Explanation:2010 Lost Ending - After six seasons on the air, thousands of fans around the world said a long goodbye to Lost, the program that revolutionized TV thanks to its mix of drama, action, suspense and science fiction.

Once a upon a time the series had permanent plots and viewers were always left with a cliffhanger that would make their brains freeze, yes it was that good. Last night during the two-hour and a half hour finale more questions were raised about the lives of plane crash survivors on a mysterious Pacific island compared to the answers that were given.

In the emotional episode , the writers managed to raise more questions than explanations, which is never a good thing for a finale.

However we did get few pieces of the puzzle thanks to Christian Shephard who more or less explained to his son Jack (and the viewers) that the characters lived on the island and when they died, their spirits step into heaven after letting go of their pain and anger.

Most fans of the series have stated that they feel cheated, robbed and insulted by the finale.

For the simplest reason, many of the wild things that happened over the last 6 years, like Dharma, Widmore’s boat, or the time travel stuff were not explained. The only upsides were the fact that we got to see almost everyone one last time and enjoyed some excellent special effects and wonderful acting.

In conclusion after wasting 6 years on that series we are still lost."


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That article sounds a bit over-the-top. I watched it and greatly enjoyed the finale, finding it a fitting end to the series. Others I have talked to were equally pleased with it.

Lost, as a show, is characterized by an extreme affirmation of the particular. Its characters are all human, even the ones that initially appear to be otherworldly. There is a certain supernatural element, but it is characterized less by definition and more by mystery. This mystery stems from the situatedness of the individual; it is not mysterious in itself, but more because of the perspective of persons who cannot see it for what it is.



The characters do not leave for heaven. The show makes it clear that they have all died (at separate times, some sooner, some later). They meet in a church, which is described as a place they had made for themselves so they could come together before the 'next step' (that being the afterlife). The church itself is notable for containing imagery from many different religions; the scene was very emotional, so I wasn't paying too much attention to the details, but Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, and Islam were all present (as were others, I am certain). The characters sit in pews, hugging and laughing together (which is, itself, poignant, as their existence with one another on earth was characterized by fear and conflict amongst themselves). While the characters are sitting in pews, reunited, Jack's father (named 'Christian,' though he is hardly a paradigm or symbol of Christianity) opens the double-doors leading into the room, and they are all bathed in light.

From a series that delivered the conditional immortality of multiple characters, a smoke monster capable of dismembering persons, time travel, and memory retention across possible worlds, I was not at all put off by the sudden interjection of thoughts of the afterlife in the finale. The scene did not give any answers. Rather, it portrayed unapologetically their state as a mysterious present for them. In light of the fact that, for us, death is equally a mystery (for who living can properly appreciate what it is to not exist), the mystery of that light, of the 'next step' (which none of them have any answers about), is not a religious presence, but an existential presence. Perhaps the next step is disintegration into atoms, which then scatter across the world. Perhaps the next step truly is heaven.

There is not, at any rate, anything for the atheist (or at least, a humanist) to be upset about in the finale. The show as a whole is a strong affirmation of the power of the individual and the importance of the individual's will as effective for that individual's own life. This was not at all negated by the final episode.

I, personally, was touched.


FTR in the title of this thread it says we're talking about the LOST FINALE so if you are still reading this and still like to whine about spoilage I have a few choice expletives for you that I won't leave here.

The Island Time line Story was entertaining and intense. With Jack passing Jacob's torch on to Hurley, and Ben's dutiful acceptance of taking Richard Alpert's place, I see potential opportunity for a season seven that we'll never unfortunately see. How would Hurley do things differently? Would his different approach better protect the mysteries of the Island or put them in greater jeopardy? Would Ben really turn a new leaf or would his tutelage of inexperienced Hurley be like a two-faced 'guardian' of a child king? I really like where this series is not going. We witness the survival of Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Lipidus, Richard, and Claire as they rocket away on Ajira 316. Do they make it back to civilization? Would it be anything like they left it? Perhaps as they left the Island, a surge of energy would emanate from it as the newly reawakened power of the Island reasserted itself. The survivors end up several years in the future, and meet with grown up representations of Walt, Aaron, JI Yeon, and Charlie Hume. Perhaps Smokey left Claire alive all those years as a backup plan, and somehow left inside her physically or mentally something that would preserve his life essence and allow him to escape and bring his brand of 'freedom' to the mainland. There's a lot of Whatifs that would make season seven very enjoyable, at least for me. I'd probably be the only one watching. And what of Jack? His physical self seemed to magically exit the hole, wander off somewhere and die, but the Smoke Monster took the Man In Black's physical appearance and seemingly his personality after MiB fell into the mysterious hole. With UnLocke now a broken vessel, would not this greater than mortal dark presence not reassert itself as an UnJack? How would Hurley & Ben react to that? And what of Desmond? Surely he's not unchanged by this experience. Can he just go home? Would a life with Penny & Charlie now be a respite or a prison, given all that he's seen? Can he help Hurley & Ben by becoming their hands and eyes on the other side? Perhaps Hurley would want to use the power of the island to try and help people throughout history. Perhaps it's their meddlling with present time that made a mess of things in the future.

There's still a lot of meat on this bone. The story's not over. As we learn from the other storyline, the lives of these ppl continue, but ultimately the writers are saying to us it's not relevant. because regardless what happens or doesn't happen beyond this point, the story of Jack's life has come to an end and so they're closing the saga as they opened it: with his eye. Damned to anyone who wants to know what happens between here and there.

The SideWize storyline. They all died and went to heaven. What utter poppycock. One can try to apologize for the writers. They went out of their way to avoid the appearance that they were choosing any one theology over another. Everybody dies. What happened happened. Dead Is Dead. The final fate of all these characters is the same as with all of us. If one believes in some kind of afterlife, we are reunited w/those who meant the most to us in our lives and we eventually wander into some bright light, living happily ever after. Granted, for those of us who do not believe in such things, this still makes for an amusing fiction, but one that completely dismisses the NonBeliever as an audience member. How I interpret this is Darlton saying, "sure you can claim disbelief all you want but we are writing Lost and we are saying to you all have sinned and fallen short, and we end this how we want and we say there's an afterlife so there nyah." I take mild offense to that. They went out of their way to serve all the believers in their audience, but disregard the nonbelievers watching their show.

I take mild solace in Ben's response. He sat outside the church, respectful and pleasant to both Locke & Hurley, even repentant of his sins, but chose not to follow them into that place. I didn't sense sadness from Ben. He was as always, openly cryptic. Allowing the nonbeliever to interpret his response as best serves the needs of the viewer. For me, it was Ben weighing the options between walking thru those doors and accepting the fate of a blinding white light, or going back to the life he now had, and making sweet love to Alex's mom Danielle Rousseau in the SideWize Timeline. I think Ben Linus chose quite nicely. Who needs eternal life in the hereafter when you got a hot milf in your bed?
Really? You felt that, because Lost took a view of the afterlife that is completely open and pays no obvious tribute to any known religion, the nonbeliever is ignored as an audience member? The shapeshifting smoke monster didn't throw you off, but some light in a building filled with symbolism from a slew of different religions does?

There was no 'All have sinned and fallen short' anywhere in The End.
I was already prepared that the ending was gonna be, some suedo religious meaning, so it didn't really bother me that much.
I enjoyed it. The whole show was fiction, the ending was fiction. What is more appropriate than the major religions being shown in the church for a totally fictional ending?
It was totally inappropriate in a sci-fi show. I saw it coming but hoped it might not be so.
I can't understand why anyone here in an atheist forum is ok with the religious ending! Are you really sincere in your atheism or not?

Does it not bother you that this very cool story seen all over the world and intriguing millions of people in an interesting storyline turns out to be a bible story???? All roads lead to gods, religions, bibles, churches, priests, ministers, etc. Is that the message you embrace?

I'm shocked at the support here for the religious ending. Even if it gave you the warm fuzzies, you here are supposed to be anti-religion are you not?

Just saying, is all.....
Here, Here Brenda.
I wonder what would have been the reaction if they all turned out to be atheists.
Interesting response. I can't say how other people took the ending, but for me it was the same as if they were all waiting in the hall of valhalla. Given that the whole thing was a construct of their minds (not of a deity) it showed that all the religions shown in the church was also a construct of their minds ("...they all built this place..."). Just saying, is all ....

"Are you really sincere in your atheism or not?" Is this question really necessary? Is there a dogma I should be adhering to?
This still implies an afterlife. Do you believe there is an afterlife?
So all art must adhere to our beliefs or it's no good? Are we not allowed to enjoy reading Greek mythology because we're atheists? I can't like the Pieta or the Last Supper? Are we supposed to deride any artistic portrayal of gods and monsters and afterlives, or we're not true atheists? I can enjoy a fictional story that portrays some version of an afterlife without being any less of an atheist. I think you're being awfully judgmental of those who enjoyed the show, Brenda. Also, while there was religious imagery, I wouldn't call it a religious ending. There was never any suggestion that there was a god in the world of Lost. It was a supernatural ending that went along with the supernatural themes of the whole show. We don't know what happened to them when the light surrounded them. Some can see it as heaven, or some can see it as a happy acceptance of "The End," which they got to experience together.
Love it!!!!!



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