"TomKat" (Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes) break up, probably over Scientology

Katie Holmes blindsided Tom Cruise with divorce papers in the last day or two, and many speculate that she wants to protect her daughter Siri from being dragged into Scientology.

Now, I always wondered what possessed her to marry into Scientology in the first place, but it's heartening that her duty as a mom has come ahead of being married to Cruise, which has undoubtedly been a boost to her own career.

I really don't get how anyone can take a religion seriously knowing it was invented by a sci-fi writer and has a theology involving space aliens. But, when you get right down to it, is it that much wackier than Christianity?

(My apologies to TA for posting in Small Talk, having been told to try to post in the more specific categories, but this does seem to be a Small Talk kind of item, though I'm willing to listen to any suggestions of a better category. Perhaps we need a category devoted to entertainment topics. If TA had one, I would have posted there.)

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Having read some of the Dianetics source materals, about the same time I was looking into our local Bagwan, it was really hard to think how anyone could ever join Scientology. They tried to be 'scientific', a test device(simple conductivity meter), a structured ideology, but a heavy dose of imagination from a science fiction writer? Sadly I was an avide SF reader also at the time, and still, but making sh-t up just so you have something to believe, then trying to sell it to someone else, making money off it, and then building a church? If they had stopped at the SF part, it could have been a great space/SF opera! 

My first experience with a scientology member was in Portland. I was walking around down town and was stopped by a cute gal. She asked me some questions, and in a few moments she had personal info., then I woke up and told her to bugger off! Latter I realized that this is a training for young recruits, with the background assertion that 'normal' people are robots!

Latter I walked into the local scientology office to look at their 'personality test'. Looking at the test I realized that it was very simular to the MMPI, given to folks with personality disorders (I was a two year psychology major at the time). They where trying to dig deep, maybe to find your buttons? If you are soft minded, trusting, with lots of money, they want you!?

They are looking for damaged people looking for something to give them some meaning, companionship, and a sense of belonging. When they ask you questions about yourself, they are looking for vulnerabilities to exploit.

RE: "They are looking for damaged people"

I'm surprised they haven't been in touch with you - you could be their poster boy --

They HAVE been in touch with me. Years ago, applying for a job, my interviewer asked me to fill out a personality questionnaire which I recognized immediately as a questionnaire handed out on the street by Scientology recruiters.

But sorry, not a poster boy because undamaged.

This from: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/what_is_scientol...

One of the people who brought those secrets to the outside world is an ex-Scientologist named Dennis Erlich.

I asked Erlich to describe for us, very briefly, the whole progression that a church member goes through, from beginner to the highest levels of Operating Thetan as Scientologists move up what they call "The Bridge to Total Freedom":

"The mental reprogramming begins with the basic courses and early one-on-one sessions," Erlich says. "These sessions train the individual to expect to have his communication, attention, and body completely controlled by the practitioner (auditor) without objecting. In later sessions, his attention is directed inwardly to parts of his so-called reactive mind. The auditor's commands guide the individual to areas which, according to the tech, release native abilities trapped in earlier unpleasant experiences that he has failed to completely 'confront.' After going through all the mental training processes, step by step, up the 'bridge' to the state of clear, one has erased the reactive mind and is returned to an 'unaberrated' state of healthy mind and body.

"Continuing up toward higher states than clear one reaches the level of Operating Thetan III, and learns that it has not been one's own reactive mind that has been causing the pain, negative emotions, or inabilities, but rather the reactive minds of the thousands and thousands of other individual spirits who are also inhabiting one's body and thinking one's thoughts. These alien spirits, one is told, were brought to Earth (then named Teegeeack) 76 million years ago by the evil galactic emperor Xenu, placed around volcanoes, blown up with hydrogen bombs and then implanted with 36 days of false memories -- including Christianity, and everything else upon which modern society is based. All human problems allegedly stem from this 'Wall of Fire' incident and the subsequent possession of humans by these 'body thetans.'

"The remainder of the 'Bridge to Total Freedom' consists of various exorcism techniques which address the health and spiritual problems inherent in alien possession."

Alien spirits can cause health and spiritual problems? Hum...;p)

I thought they were more wise than us...

I think that's "As the Stomach Turns" --

Ditto Blaine. Great entertainment guys! Almost as good as the now classic episode where Unseen is invited down a dark alley by Atheist Exile. Wish I had the link :(

You guys just drop your dollars (or pounds) into the hat - there'll be another performance later today, as soon as Unseen sobers up.

This, from the latter link above, for those unfamiliar with the basic tenants of Scientology:

If you're new to Scientology watching, you may have some basic understanding that church members are taught that we are immortal beings who have lost a sense of our true nature, and through church founder L. Ron Hubbard's 'auditing' we can wipe away the fog of countless lifetimes of trauma and become 'clear.' Then, moving along increasingly more expensive levels of auditing (also known as Hubbard's 'technology' or 'tech'), we can perfect the ability to 'exteriorize' from our mundane bodies and get more control over our immortal inner 'thetan.' This process of increasing control and power is known as 'the Bridge' and can cost years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to ascend.

Reminds me of Palin's Bridge To Nowhere --

I read somewhere that people like Cruse are different from the rest of us. I think I know why now..LOL




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