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Permalink Reply by Michael Sizer-Watt on January 8, 2011 at 2:33am

Just as a side note, that carbon dating crap he's saying is bunk. Dawkins explains it very well in the greatest show on earth. There are many ways to estimate the age of an item, and usually several methods are used and a final estimate is concluded by factoring in each result. He's completely wrong to say that carbon dating is only valid to fifty thousand years. If he's such an expert, have him explain how carbon dating works. He'll have no idea, which stongly suggests he's of course talking out of his ass.

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Permalink Reply by Isaac on January 8, 2011 at 1:46am

Creationists also seem to ignore the fact that carbon dating is NOT the only form of radiometric dating.

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Permalink Reply by Mo Trauen on January 8, 2011 at 11:51am

Yes, they do.  It is one of the many lies they tell.  This lie, like so many others, is subtle.  It is a lie of omission.  Religious arguments, and creationist arguments in particular, are often based on lies of omission.  Such as omitting the fact that belief and faith have more than one definition.

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Permalink Reply by Julien on January 7, 2011 at 8:05pm

Religion. All definitions have something to do with a higher power, a spiritual lider, a god, etc.

 

I am curious. Does he believe that the belief in Santa is also a religion?

 

You can tell him something like: "I believe you are stupid. Does that mean I have a new religion?" It shouldn't matter whether you believe he is stupid or not; just to see what his response is.

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Permalink Reply by Moria Jackson on January 7, 2011 at 8:21pm

I considered doing something similar to that, but feel I am wasting energy and brain cells.  He and the other person are now in a shouting match on my fb page.

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Permalink Reply by Moria Jackson on January 7, 2011 at 8:48pm

Thanks.  This discussion now has 236 comments.  I hope the madness ends soon.

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Permalink Reply by Jennifer Ulean Breedlove on January 7, 2011 at 10:53pm

Definition of RELIGION

1

a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance

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: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

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archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness

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: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

This is from Merriam Websters dictionary which is the dictionary that I have always understood to be the most accepted dictionary.

I can see from that where some people would consider it a religion, but if they consider atheism a religion they have to also consider all superstitions religions, or hockey a religion. or yoga a religion, or meditation a religion.. As a matter of a fact they have to hold every single belief they have in life as a religion. So there is really no point in arguing .. That is my opinion..

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Permalink Reply by Dustin on January 7, 2011 at 10:54pm

I was getting annoyed just reading this.  How can any clear thinking person attempt to water down the definition of religion so much as to make it mean 'A belief in something'?

 

We already have a word for that, it's called belief!  Let alone his atrocious reasoning for the falsity of evolution.  Ugh!

 

Is it that believers in a religion can't for the life of them imagine a person who is NOT part of a religion?  

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