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Permalink Reply by Anachro1 on January 11, 2011 at 6:34pm

Hate fucks with them.

They no longer understand peace.

I will always strive to make their lives as difficult as I can.

It's the xtian thing to do.

Personally, I would wipe my ass with their tacky litle saviour.

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Permalink Reply by Jennifer Ulean Breedlove on January 11, 2011 at 6:38pm

If living your life with anger and aggression is the way you choose to do it so be it..

However I have much better things to do with my life other than trying to fuck with a disillusioned person who is beyond help of learning to think..

I would rather smile and be happy and let them be them be alone in their own little world.

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Permalink Reply by Anachro1 on January 11, 2011 at 6:50pm

Hey,  it works for me.

I have no complaints.  To care,  I would have to initially care about xtians.  I do not.  Never have.  Given half the chance,  I would put piss in their holy water.  Why should they get away with anything?

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Permalink Reply by Mo Trauen on January 11, 2011 at 10:02pm

Anachro1 wrote:  "Xtians have had way too much power,  and they've used it like the fools they are."

 

There is no doubt about that.  There is also no doubt that they deserve more than a little moral disapproval and some hatred.  If you want to put them in their place effectively, however, you have to remember where their values lie.  The only thing they really value is "looking good", i.e., making a good impression on others. 

 

Keep that in mind when choosing both your conduct and your words and you will be a very effective agent against their pernicious influence.  By that I don't mean tell them that they look bad in your eyes.  They don't care what we think.  Instead, make them see how bad they look to everyone who is remotely objective.  To do this well, you have to retain your moral and emotional superiority.

 

If you want to express your hatred, keep it philosophical, rational, academic--psychologically clinical.  There is more than enough material in the things they say, do, and think to achieve that and it's much more effective.

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Permalink Reply by Anachro1 on January 12, 2011 at 12:56am

Good points. 

Still,  I live in SF, where we atheists seem to be in the majority these days.   Churches sit empty and would be put to better use to house the homeless, many of which are the recent homeless.  Entire families, in varying states of disorientation, are setting up tents tonight in Golden Gate Park.  

Do churches practice that shit they preach?   I think not.

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Permalink Reply by Mo Trauen on January 12, 2011 at 2:42am

You won't get any argument from me.  I am very interested in winning this historical battle that has been raging over the centuries--usually with us losing.

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Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on January 11, 2011 at 6:03pm

Westboro Baptist Church -- just one more group that wants to say pretty much nothing as loudly as possible.

 

Problematically, Fred Phelps is a disbarred lawyer.  The WBC will always toe the line down to the letter of the law.  While I have an appreciation for the problems with enacting legislation against this sort of behavior, I don't consider it a free speech issue.  They should be free to express whatever opinions and ideas they wish.  Really, it's the method much more than the message that is the problem.  Such behavior is, unequivocally, harassment.  It is, unequivocally, harmful to other American citizens.

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Permalink Reply by Lindsey on January 11, 2011 at 7:21pm

Exactly! No one's trying to prevent the WBC from stating their beliefs, they're just preventing them from verbally harassing people at a funeral. No one says anything about free speech when someone in a workplace makes lewd and inappropriate comments to a co-worker and is fired for sexual harassment.  Or when someone is escorted out of a concert hall or movie theatre for being too loud.  Or when a teacher is fired for swearing at their students. People are allowed to say whatever they want, but not necessarily wherever they want: there are times and places where certain speech is inappropriate and using it gets you into trouble, and making a funeral one of them doesn't violate anyone's civil rights. Being allowed to SAY whatever you want and being allowed to DO whatever you want aren't the same thing.

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Permalink Reply by Wayne on January 12, 2011 at 1:23am

I pity the fool who has any sympathy for these people, even the children are taught to preach this message, and while I do pity the children, they are the scum of our society, that which has no place in a infinitely growing culture and country. Regrettably,  most of them are lawyers... they enrage me every time they protest a funeral, especially a child's. The only reason that they are tolerated is because they are following the rules... quite pitiful really, I'd imagine it as a cancer to our society.

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