The Way to Be Happy is to Make Others Happy - "discuss"

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You can be OK and comfortable, strong and secure, have all your material needs taken care of, but that isn't the same as being happy. 

In fact you need to be OK in order to make others happy, and you need to be OK so that you're not depriving yourself of resources when you help others. 

You say "In fact," but in fact I think that's your opinion. I think people often make themselves unhappy while making others happy.

Sorry, just a turn of phrase. 

"I think people often make themselves unhappy while making others happy."

This is true. 

It's also possible for someone who is already unhappy, to cause someone else's happiness. 

However, I contend that that the unhappy person will be a little bit happier afterwards. 

@Unseen - RE: "people often make themselves unhappy while making others happy" - I certainly can't imagine you arrived at this though personal experience --

I just realized that by turning your assertion around, it would follow that other people are happy only when I am happy, and I can tell you for sure that that is NOT TRUE.

But they can always become happy through other means - they don't need to have been made happy by you and me. 

If I'm trying to influence someone else's happiness, if it's not necessary for me to be happy, at least it is necessary for me to know what I'm doing. 

It is also a sad truth that it gives many people pleasure when they see that somebody else is unhappy. 

many people pleasure when they see that somebody else is unhappy


 Listeni/ˈʃɑːdənfrɔɪdə/ (German: [ˈʃaːdənˌfʁɔʏdə]) is pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.[1] This German word is used as a loanword in English and some other languages, and has been calqued in Danish and Norwegian as skadefryd and in Swedish asskadeglädje and Finnish as vahingonilo.

(And I hope everyone clicks on every link. Or hates that I left out the word "gives". Hahahahahahahahahaha! Hahahahahahahahahaha! Hahahahahahahahahaha! Hahahahahahahahahaha!)

@Unseen - Recalling your "sackful of kittens and a hammer," I think I can safely assume that that's an accurate statement.

Did I say that? I thought I had made reference to a box full of puppies and a chainsaw.

I'd suggest this discussion should be more analog, and less true/false binary. There's even analog wrt a box of puppies and a chainsaw. Like, I'd draw my line at never having fuel in (or an extension cord for) the chainsaw. Just the noise would cause trauma. Unless it were some future, super-quiet chainsaw.

"more analog, and less true/false binary"

Agreed.  Like real life, in fact.  50 shades of grey. 

If my partner isn't happy, I'm not happy.


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