The economy in the United States is in a collapse.  The Capitalist system does not work anymore; banks have become more powerful than our politicians.  The government now has a policy based around Fear and Greed.  The rich are getting richer and more powerful, while the great masses of America wallow in poverty.

Must we continue to exist in this passive state, only living to serve the rich and powerful?  Or do we, the great masses, stand up against the policies Fear, and Greed, and God?  We must break the bonds that separate us, we must pull down the centers of Greed and Fear and we must pull down the houses of God.  These borders are created to separate us into individuals where we can be controlled easier.

We must stand up, against the tyranny of the centers of Greed, and Fear, and God.  Quoting John Adams:  "People should not fear government, government should fear people."  Once we stand up to Fear, to Greed, to God, we will become united!

This being said, I advocate the collapse of the Capitalist system and the foundation of the United Socialist Federal Republic, in which the government will exist to serve the people.  Capitalism is Dead.  We must put it out of it's misery and move on toward Socialism.

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Oops! Sorry, when you wrote "those of us who got left out and who have nothing", I didn't know you meant nothing except an old computer and electricity and internet access.
I understand you feelings, I understand what your going through... believe me, I've been there. I would just like to say, I'm sorry. I have done nothing wrong to you, personally, or to all the poor people in America, personally.

But... I will accept--and I can't think of a better term--I will take the sins of my country. I will take the sins of what this government has done by creating a permanent under-class. I will take the sins because no one else will. I will carry the sins of my country, I will bear the weight and the pain, because someone has to.

So, though personally I did nothing towards you or the poor, I will accept the sins of my country. I apologize for what was done. If--no rather when the dream of The United Socialist Federal Republic comes into being, no one will be poor. I will personally go to your hometown and every other small poor town, and to every person living in poverty, and I will help them. Building schools. Giving healthcare. Getting jobs. I will help everyone, because that is what a Socialist country is all about. Helping everyone. Everyone will help Everyone!

I'm not asking you to forgive and forget. Never forget. But, give me your sins, and I will bear the weight. When we become a Socialist state, I will help everyone. And I will make sure, that we NEVER repeat the sins of the past!
I'm doing what's right, doone.
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It's not just being without a critical winter heating utility in a state where winter temps dip below 0 degrees F, which makes not having gas deadly. It's all that plus facing losing one's eyesight for lack of access to preventive glaucoma treatments on top of everything else...after a lifetime of trying so much harder than what most people care to think about, only to get told in so many words that I don't even deserve my health — my SIGHT — so at least I can fend for myself as best as possible under circumstances that are far, far less than comfortable. So, that's why I got angry. Plus I cannot shake the images of Hurricane Katrina from my memory, and the knowledge of how that botched rescue effort went down.
"If you really want to fight for poor people's rights so badly, you should not waste your time on this sort of networking sites, because it's not really helping the poor. You could be teaching a computer class for poor people instead of typing these very long paragraphs here. "

Do you have a job for me? Are you offering me a job teaching other poor people how to use a computer and basic productivity software? If not, then you have no right telling me how I should spend my time since I don't have a job, and infer that I should just be quiet and go away because as a poor person you think I should have no voice.
And I'm calling bullshit. You expect me to take being attacked, ganged up on and run roughshod over for no good goddam reason and then sweetly smile and pass out milk and cookies? Understand me: I am NO ONE'S bitch.
"JSH, do you really think nobody who is not poor cares about the poor?"

Having stated my case, which was apparently too unpalatable for you to fully read, digest and acknowledge, you know full well what I think. And you know why. Stare decisis.

"That is just nonsense;"

Talk about being wrapped up in one's own privilege: the ultimate meta-privilege of dismissing the views and experiences of others whose needs haven't been/aren't being met in this society as argumentative just because all is right in your own world.

"there are many people out there fighting for the rights of people under the poverty line, like lawyers giving up their time for free, doctors who work in free clinics, middle class people who volunteer their time to help, like in Big Brothers, Big Sisters programs, etc."

You really don't get it. Have you ever gone to one of those very few and far between "free clinics" for treatment as an undercover poor person to see exactly how most of the poor really do get treated who go there?

Most places that have "free clinics" treat the poor like an unwanted nuisance that are undeserving of any compassion, understanding, consideration and respect — like the one and only dentist in Erie who treated the poor who refused to give me novacane for a root canal in a tooth that had abscessed, telling me that "the problem with you people is that you rely on drugs to get through everything in life."

Or the one and only doctor at the local limited medical care sliding fee clinic (Community Health Net) who treated me like I was less than fucking garbage when I went in for a physical and took with me the Medicaid forms along with a letter to the doctor that was mailed to me by Medicaid advocates in Philadelphia's Unemployed Voices Project.

That doctor treated me with contempt and wouldn't even examine me when I told him that I had no family doctor and hadn't been able to get medical care in well over a decade because of being poor and disabled but in a catch-22 regarding getting helped from Medicaid (which they've made impossible for the poor to get anymore since the Welfare Reform Act), and he threw the Medicaid forms back in my face and walked out of the exam room and refused to see me.

Those forms which required his signature are the only way I can get Medicaid in my state as a poor childless adult under age 65 so I can get the glaucoma treatment I need so I don't have to go blind, OK.

And he didn't do it. I didn't get what I needed. And I still have no access to ophthalmalogical care for controlling/arresting my glaucoma....or regular preventive care (requiring medicines) for my high blood pressure/hypertension and edema problems that I am currently not getting any treatment or medicines for at all.

So much for all those "caring" doctors and dentists who are such martyrs for giving of their time to "treat" the poor. And my experiences were not unique.

And where are all these lawyers you say are out there "fighting for the poor?" Poor people on death row are not even guaranteed legal representation on the appellate level when it concerns getting DNA evidence introduced that could exonerate them.

Thanks to Reagan eliminating legal aid for the poor, the only legal aid for the poor is very limited SSI representation. The blanket denial policy of low-income disabled SSI applicants requires anyone who is poor and young and disabled to undertake a lengthy legal appeals process, and once awarded the entitlement of that measly $600/mo SSI check, those lawyers get a third of it. They're not the ones who are poor and disabled, and it's outrageous that anyone who is poor and disabled should need a lawyer to fight for a pittance of an entitlement that isn't even enough to live on anywhere in the United States.

Poor people are the only group in this country that is de facto deprived of any right to sue someone for any tortious act committed against them.

As an aside: thanks to Reagan's cuts in funding for HUD by 81% and the privatization of much of that agency's housing providers, the waiting list for low-income subsidized housing is about ten years long and frequently those who get Section 8 vouchers return the vouchers unused because of a real lack of affordable housing for the poor.

The saintly middle class people you praised for donating an hour or two of their time once a week at food banks and soup kitchens and for dropping off the occasional donated dented can of high sodium/high MSG/high starch and sugar foods to assuage their consciences so they can tell themselves that they've "done their part" will never come close to making up for the contempt and scorn they treat the poor with in every other venue and discourse. Nor does it make up for their deliberate exclusion of the poor as job applicants for entry-level middle class jobs so that maybe, just MAYBE, the poor can have a chance just for once in life and climb out of poverty and help themselves.

If the majority of the middle class really, truly cared about the poor, they wouldn't have:

1) Voted for politicians and presidents like House Scrooge Newt Gingrich, woman-hater Dick Armey, and president Ronald Reagan who promised them goodies and tax cuts at the cost of cuts/eliminations of programs that helped the poor. Remember, these were the very people who gladly served as Reagan's electoral foot soldiers who all clamored for throwing "baby-makers" and "able-bodied SSI cheats" off the public dole while remaining totally silent about Reagan's elimination of CETA, the federally subsidized jobs program for this nation's most socio-economically disadvantaged job-seekers trying to get a toehold on the jobs ladder.

2) Fled to McMansions and exclusive suburban housing subdivisions and gated communities just to avoid having to suffer the indignity of having their kids sit next to those of others who "are not their kind."

3) Supported policies amounting to taking from the needy to give to the greedy out of egotistical avarice, hatred for the poor, and self-absorption — conveniently cloaked in the habiliments of "personal responsibility" and justified by the deficit theory views like the "culture of poverty" claptrap promoted and advanced by Ivy League academicians from this nation's privileged classes.

In the 2008 presidential election campaign, the words "Main Street" were referenced no less than 28 times. Main Street is code speak for middle class. It’s extremely offensive and classist that the concept of “Joe the Plumber” and “Main Street” is used to insulate the middle class from the suffering of those who are far worse off. We always hear the battle cries of “Why is the government destroying the middle class?” and “The middle class is under attack!” and variations thereof — implying that “destroying the poor is perfectly OK, but threatening the middle class is going too far.”

The political elite, who are elected by middle class voters, aspire to be part of the owning class — the very same class that view the needs of the common people as an economic nuisance. (Note that the word “entitlement” is used as a derogatory weapon that is never applied to FEMA’s black budget or the Pentagon budget.)

Tax breaks essentially pay corporations to ship jobs out of America to the lowest and sleaziest bidder to places like Indonesia and El Salvador where workers are paid 15 cents an hour; lowering the tax base and stressing the social safety net (what’s left of it) and adding to the deficit.

There’s a double standard: the Golden Parachute for the rich and their whores in Congress, the Oval Office, and the US Supreme Court near the top of the economic ladder, and the Lead Anchor standard for the 98% on the lower and bottom rungs.

So why is it OK for the poor to be crushed underfoot, suffering in misery and deprivation with higher disability rates, maternal and infant mortality rates, and lower life expectancies — all due to lack of access to medical care and other basic human needs — than people in many Third World nations while only the grievances of the middle class matter?

If it’s not acceptable to destroy the middle class, then it’s not acceptable to destroy the poor.


If it’s not OK for middle class women and girls to be forced to work in the seedy sex industry under exploitative, dehumanizing and degrading conditions with no social security credits and other benefits due to job discrimination and lack of equal opportunity for jobs with dignity, why should it be OK for poor women and girls? If it’s not OK for your wives and daughters, it’s not OK for us.

If it’s not OK for middle class boys and men to fight in imperialist wars (that only serve the interests of the very rich) only to get blown up, maimed, and killed; then it’s not OK for our men either.

For over 30 years that fascist right-wing politicians (whose generous salaries, perks, travel expenses, Cadillac health care, and $90,000/yr retirement benefits are paid for by the public) worked to dismantle laws and social programs and safety nets that benefited the working class and the poor; the poor were promised a share of the pie if only we’d quietly wait our turn, hats in hand, after Reagan’s trickle-down economics first benefited the rich and the middle class.

But we never got our turn.

During every debate and discourse on universal health care, provisions in health care reform bills that would have helped the poor were jettisoned in the name of “compromise.” Those of us in poverty never got our turn after the middle class got what they wanted. We’re fed up and we’re through being polite because we can’t wait anymore. And we won’t. We’re sick and tired of being appointed to “take one for the team.” (And no, we will not “shut up and stop whining”, thank you very much.)

We stand on the precipice of irreversible catastrophe to humanity. We have an over privileged overclass of economic terrorists on Wall Street pulling the strings of their stooges in Congress and in the presidential cabinet like Steny Hoyer (D-MD) who wants to cut social security and his partner in crime, the head of the Catfood Commission, Al Simpson, who called the social security program a “milk cow with 310 million tits.”

Of course, both of those scumbags (along with every other Congresscritter), enjoy the high life off of the public tit. I don’t know about you, but my tits are starting to hurt. Maybe it’s time we pry our greedy arrogant lawmakers’ mouths off of our tits and let them go try and make a living selling overpriced detergent for Amway.
You mention "me" a lot. Just because YOU have had bad experiences while being poor doesn't mean everyone has.

I'm poor, have been homeless, have been to the free clinics, have not had transportation in an area with NO buses or trains or sidewalks for that matter. I'm not blaming the government.

Do I have issues that are beyond my control, yes. Did the government genetically alter my genes to cause this, no.

Shit happens.

Do some things need to change, yes. There are many who abuse the system, thus making it harder on the ones that really need it. The healthcare professionals who treat patients in free clinics have to deal with an overwhelming flow of people who abuse it. Not to mention the redtape they have to fight through that was meant to stem the abusers.

You bitch about everything but you never do anything to remedy it. Posting on a forum in an aggressive manor is not action.
And what do you know what I do or not? Are you involved with CAUS? Are you spending much of your time breaking through the mainstream media blackout on the utility shut-offs crisis? Are you involved with trying to get the local farmers that are part of the sustainability project to accept the EBT food assistance cards so that poor people on food stamps can have a choice other than Wal-Mart's for buying produce? What action are you doing about it? You've not even written about it, as I have, yet you criticize my efforts without even knowing a damn thing about those efforts in addition to the writing and speaking out that I do (which is the first and most important step).
Wrong. I'm the one who's been pretty much ganged up on and fucked over and attacked here for simply posting some inconvenient truths (you know, those ugly truths about classism in America), and because I refuse to take any shit when I know goddamn well I'm right, you want to make me out to be the heavy. And I'm calling bullshit. And no, I am NOT going to just politely let everybody else here (except for Andrew, who actually was receptive to what I had to say) push me around and run roughshod over me and fuck me over when I know what the fuck I'm talking about.
And you know for a fact that those who've done nothing but dismiss or invalidate my knowledge and experience were/are in my shoes? You have proof of that?

And just who here on this board has been "my ally?"

Does an ally invalidate someone else's experience or diminish it just because they might have gotten a little bit lucky and they're doing OK now?

Does an ally talk down to someone for raising their voice over having been on the receiving end of classism, and then tell them that it's all their own damn fault for being stupid or not spending their time in the approved middle class way that middle classers think the unemployable poor should? (Refer to earlier post about arrogance in presuming it's the "defective" poor who need to be taught how to get with the middle class program)

Does an ally (Denis) who admittedly chose to commit a crime and mess up their own prospects via incarceration tell someone else who's poor who isn't an ex-convict, who is poor not of their own choices or illegal anti-social behavior, but rather due to a legacy of discrimination, bad luck, and a disability that they didn't give themselves; that they're just "playing the victim?" Is that what you think an "ally" does?

I recall you implying in an earlier post that I must be poor because of not making any/enough necessary "sacrifices" or trying hard enough, because others from deep poverty were able to make it out (neglecting to acknowledge that the number is very few and that luck does play a significant role) and therefore if I couldn't, it's somehow my own damn fault. Which also implies that our system isn't broken, and that everyone has an equal chance of being able to make it because there's somehow room for everybody at the middle and top and it's only a few insignificant "losers" who aren't making it/haven't been able to make it that are poor and totally fucked. You did insinuate that without having a clue about just how hard I have tried in my life, and just how long I have been doing so, and just what obstacles I might have had that maybe not everyone else has had nor under the conditions that I've had.

I recall another poster you claim is an "ally" saying that because I have a computer and electricity that I'm somehow not badly off — as if facing having to go blind because of being unable to afford medical care to save my eyesight with very easily treatable early stage glaucoma (before it progresses) could somehow be remediated if my disabled husband (who has even worse health problems as a cardiac patient) and I also did without electricity after we've already been without our gas (no heat, hot water to bathe, clean up after cooking).

There's a huge difference between having an old second-hand computer and a $30/mo electric bill through the CAP program and not having money to afford routine monitoring/treatment at an ophthalmologist at $276 a clip — NOT including the drops I might need (and not all of them are cheap and which ones work on one glaucoma patient doesn't always work on another one)

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