The Pope admits that God is not omnipotent and Big Bang and evolution are real... (WTF!)

The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not “a magician with a magic wand”, Pope Francis has declared.

Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the “pseudo theories” of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.

Francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator – arguing instead that they “require it”.

“When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said. (source)

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Thanks for fixing the title. I was trying to come up with some comment about god taking viagra, but I couldn't think of anything good.


Open mind; insert foot.

Wow! Is it a Freudian slip if I didn't notice it until just now?

That's religion, all religions now try to find a common point between their religion and modern day science to prove that their religion is right ... I Mean even Jews now say that science proved that god is protecting the Jews :3 .

If so, he did a piss poor job.

The pope is just trying to update religion , to keep the hordes of wealth flowing into the coffers of the Vatican .. But I do find it ironic with the big bang theory I do not agree with, that it in itself was brought about by a catholic priest to try and scientifically nudge people to believe that it was the observable work of god, as if god farted the universe into existence , something like that all from  nothing ... Anyway... stuff existed before the time of the "big bang" effort... there are actually more better modern theories about the universe. The ones that I agree with is that the universe always existed, endlessly recycling itself. Don't forget , he also wishes to baptise and convert extraterrestrials to christianity... 

I think what Pope Cuddles said a few days after his Evolution and Big Bang pronouncements tells us much about the scientific credentials of the Catholic Church. He praised exorcists for the love and care they have shown to those possessed by demons when he welcomed 300 of them to Rome for the International Exorcists Convention.

I suppose if the only things that the church says that are DEFINITELY true have to be specified as such...and only post mortum hymen repairs and their location are that sure....that sort of leaves one wondering about the truthiness of the entire organization and its publications.

Most sane people are ok with the bible being just a story book...even if they need to believe in god.

They then have to do some real gymnastics to come up with a way for the premise of the story to be true, without the story being true, etc.

IE: They essentially make something up that makes the bridge, and rationalize as needed.

This Pope, and I give him credit for this, is at least trying to erase thousands of years of church suppression of knowledge.  Sure, he is using a flawed eraser, it leaves god stains behind even after a good scrubbing...but, the church, for a change, is not looking AS stupid as when the earth had to be flat, the sun orbiting the earth, etc.

He is slowly bringing Catholics into the ~ 20th century.  Its a start.  The new religion, conservatism, with pulpits on right wing radio shows, is lagging behind for a change...but, is stronger in many hearts and minds.

IE: The POPE says global climate change is a real thing, and they say NO ITS NOT!  The oil company gods have supplanted the ancient ones in influence and power.

The oil companies, etc, have learned the art of manipulation to control the masses better than the church.

This is analogous to the tobacco industry hiring the lobbying firm that worked for the asbestos so much was learned about misinformation and creation of controversy where it needed to be invented...that asbestos was banned, but we still subsidize tobacco.

They learned to make several slightly smaller they attract less attention, and to be subtle in their propaganda.  

I understand big oil, I worked in research for them.  The laboratory I worked at had imported Italian marble tiles that cost as much as a car for each one, etc.  My GC/MS etc, were state of the art.  We got tax payer money to subsidize the research and oil exploration....even though profits were astronomical.

If you want to know who writes the checks to those who's JOB it is to spread the holy word about the global warming hoax...its big oil.

Apparently - those who do long range planning, figured out that if people stop using fossil fuels, a lot of the money they get selling fossil fuels goes the way of the dinosaurs, etc, who are now part of the fossil fuels.

Stalling and diversification are therefore the name of the game.  The stock would plummet if the diversification was not framed well,, subtle, subtle subtle.

That's the tobacco industry plan too.


This discussion to me--in a larger, historical context--is about an episode in world religion and dysfunctional American politics. Let me jump the shark... pull a non-sequitur (for TA)... laud the likes of Catholics Dr. Bob, Pope "Cuddles", and Stephen Colbert in terms of America and a religion's ability to sometimes be self-reflective:


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