I put this in Politics, Economics, (etc.) because I know for some women this IS a political issue.

I ran into a stack of old Penthouse magazines and after looking through them (for sociological reasons, of course) I was reminded that way back when (before some of the younger members here were born, no doubt) women had hair down there. Today, they're bald as newborn babies. At least, that's the impression you might get from much of the nude images today.

The question is: pubes...thumbs up or thumbs down. And why, if you want to discuss it. I've heard women argue that pubes are unhealthy. I've heard men complain of rug burn tongue. I'm not sure I buy either of those arguments. 

If you want to discuss men and their pubes as well, that's fine, too.

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I prefer pubic hair, but the new trend has significantly reduced crab lice infestations.

I shave mine because I hate it when my undies snag it and pull. I dislike pubes all together because nobody likes getting hair on their tongue :p

And they are unhealthy, because they make a perfect breeding ground for crabs and lice.

Is hair on the tongue a bad thing?

No, and I've heard young men say that they would get mat burn of the tongue muff diving on a hairy one. I'm older and have experience both ways. Believe me, stubble is more like sandpaper than pubic hair. Pubic hair, as anyone with a body of experience going down south can attest, gets softer once saliva is applied and is NOT as abrasive as some without experience might imagine. 

You've never experienced male pubic hair, have you?

when it comes loose and gets stuck in your teeth it is. XP

I just stop momentarily and pull it out, lay it on her tummy, and get going again.

ew. no. I make my man shave, just like I do, or at least trim short enough that it doesn't get in my mouth. Sometimes we make it a fun little trust game in the shower. Stop me if I'm going TMI.

How is this a political question? Just curious. If anyone can get away with it, it's you Unseen, LOL!!!!

It's a very political issue. A lot of feminists regard the removal of pubic hair as designed to make women look more child-like by removing a natural sign of sexual maturity. Ditto for underarm and leg hair. They also see it as political because they feel it's often done as the result of male partner pressure or porn (though it should be noted that there is a strong pro-pubic hair interest area in porn). 

This article discusses some of the pros and cons. One notable thing is that while proponents of taking it off argue that it's important for the prevention of "crabs" (pubic lice), taking it off seems to increase the chance of viral infections. Here is a quote: 

Case for: Pressure
Where it used to be seen as taboo to remove pubic hair, there is an established modern pressure for women to keep it off.

The amount of time, money and energy spent on an incredibly unenjoyable and often very painful experience is absurd. Let's not forget it's there for a reason - its removal has been proven to increase infection.

Marketing campaigns for hair removal products target women to say that being smoother will please your man - and as a result men come to expect that any stubble is simply offensive, lazy or masculine.

Why should women pluck, scrape, thread, epilate, shave, dissolve or wax their natural hair to please anyone? Plus, who naturally has no pubic hair? Children. We all mature for a reason, and women shouldn't have to return to their pre-pubescent youth to fill any adolescent fantasies.

Case against: Grooming
Styling pubic hair is not dissimilar to how hairstyles evolve with time. Just as you don't see many mullets around anymore, in the seventies a full bush was preferred downstairs, and now a Brazilian is the fashionable choice.

It's each woman's preference whether she chooses to shave or wax, and it would be an invasion of privacy to dictate what they should do to their private parts.

Men also shave their facial hair according to personal taste and trends, and increasingly tidy up and wax their pubic hair, too.

Personal grooming in on the up in every sense - anyone can see that hairs sprouting from swimwear is simply unsightly.

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On the topic of viral infection, read this article. A quote:

"As director of the health centre at Western University in Washington State, US, she has seen the consequences. 'Pubic hair removal naturally irritates and inflames the hair follicles, leaving microscopic open wounds. Frequent hair removal is necessary to stay smooth, causing regular irritation of the shaved or waxed area. When that is combined with the warm, moist environment of the genitals, it becomes a happy culture media for some of the nastiest bacterial pathogens.'....

In her practice it is not unusual to find patients with boils and abscesses on their genitals from shaving as well as cellulitis, an infection of the scrotum, labia or penis from shaving or from having sex with someone infected. Herpes is also an increased risk 'due to the microscopic wounds being exposed to virus carried by mouth or genitals.' 'It follows that there may be vulnerability to the spread of other sexually transmitted diseases as well,' she says.

Ahhh I see now. Well, I guess I'll have to think on that. I can see how the pressure to look like children could be offensive to some women. I think there are far too many other reasons to be appauled at the porn industry and the issue of pubic hair would not be my number one (or even number two or three) point of contension. But I guess ultimately nothing is immune from becoming political these days.

No comment on my personal preference, but I do think that like anything else should be, it's a woman's choice, and men......well, they've always had a choice, so, to each his or her own.

When I saw the discussion title I thought (for a brief moment) you had made a reference to the Pubes from Stephen King's 'The Dark Tower' series. How unexpected!

But no, it turns out I'm a sci-fi geek, blundering accidentally into a discussion about hairy private parts. Pay me no mind. Carry on, folks.

**Backs out the way I entered and closes the door**

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