I was brought to this site by stumpleupon.com to which I am extremely glad I did, but after months of being on here it seems to me that people are just stuck in a rut talking about the most mundane and irrelevant things. Yes religion is boring and should be condemned and put down where ever is necessary but shouldn't we be looking at greater things like the state of the world and how fucked up it is? Lets use our free thinking for something more relevant.

Im currently obsessed by the idea behind the Zeigeist movement. It deals with how society is polluted by a capitalist motion that is simply destroying our social fabric and more importantly our very existence.

Dont you think its time we looked beyond just peoples beliefs and look at the true picture that is being painted of our world today? Things are fucked up, big time. Lets move on to a new chapter ay?


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That is beautiful.

It's already too late!

I'm not so pessimistic Doug, in fact, I believe I have an idea that could revolutionize the auto industry and cut carbon emissions drastically if I could partner with an ethical electrical engineer, well-versed in the properties of electromagnetism and at least somewhat knowledgeable about cars.

If such a person exists on the board, I'd certainly be interested in a private message.

Can I buy shares?

I would totally agree. People always always ask me 'Rich, why havent you settled down with kids yet?' And I think to myself about bringing a child into this world.....Im just not that selfish.

Im just single cause women drive me up the wall! 

Love it, or leave it to those of us who do --


Yeah go on and try, meanwhile I'll lean back and enjoy the show.
I know I do go on bit but the biggest contributor to global warming is the meat industry. Bigger than all of transport and well documented, it was the subject of a UN report. Most on these forums are not willing to forgo pork chops so trying to get a movement for change going is quite frankly living in the land of fairies. It's not going to happen. Self interest is far too strong. With the Chinese, Indians and others coming online with meat consumption at an accelerating rate, we are all f*cked.

yeah sad to say our species for the most part isn't concerned unless it affects them directly.  Not much changes until it's completely broken.  Too many vested interests and too many people that just want to live their lives in their little bubbles.  In the U.S.  our economy is dependent on sick people for jobs but at the same time is broken because we have to spend so much money on sick people.  Our shitty processed diet not only leads to our sickness but also as was stated greatly contributes to greenhouse gas admissions.  Which by the way Tom, greenhouse is right in the name of "greenhouse gases".  So while the window analogy Arch gave is good just look up how a green house actually works and think of the earth as a giant one. 

The income gap is another root problem.  I think it maybe to get so bad as to replay the whole antoinette scene.  I could go on but there are so many problems linked to other problems and yeah relgion is def a part of it but human greed is just as much.  So yah we're fucked. 

also, Arch im quite interested in what your solution is if you would tell an ethical atheist the gist of your proposal.  I have no desire to steal your solution as I feel it would only put a target on my back but I do like hearing about the next great thing. 

@Jimmy - I've no doubt you're more ethical than Ghandi, but once something is out on the internet, it's there forever. The only real way to keep a secret, lies in not telling anyone.

@Jimmy - both greenhouse heat and interior car heat depend on windows and the inability of infrared rays to pass back through them, but more people are personally familiar, if they've ever sat on a vinyl seat wearing cutoffs, with heat buildup in cars, than with greenhouses.


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