In the ask Dr. Bob thread, there was much academic discussion of damage caused by pedophilia. I thought I should give an additional viewpoint.

There is a man, let's call him Phyllis, who had four children with his wife and then they had an ugly divorce. In the settlement, she got full custody of the kids and Phyllis had them for a weekend twice a month, and two weeks in the summer. Phyllis had a job as an over the road truck driver and made a good buck, so he kept up with the child support. I married Phyllis' ex-wife six years after they split up.

He also took the kids to Catholic church in the small town he lived in every time he had them and was very active in his church. He moved in with his mom after the divorce and kept seeing the "other woman", let's call her Zelda, who inspired the divorce in the first place. She had 3 kids of her own. Phyllis and Zelda were dating for 8 years, and finally decided to get a house together.   

About 2 months after they moved in together, on Dec. 23rd, Phyllis stayed home, and Zelda's 10 year old daughter had the day off of school. It turned out that this was the first time he was alone with any 10 year old girl in many years and he convinced the little girl to pose for some pictures--sans clothing.

A couple hours later, she told my 15 year old stepdaughter (Phyllis' biological daughter) what had happened in an emotional state, crying and asking if she had done something wrong.  

When my wife and I were told of it, we immediately called Zelda, the grandparents (Zelda's mom and dad).  We let Phyllis know that we knew what had happened, and since he did not turn himself in after 2 days, I went to the small town he lives in and reported him to the police.

By the time they went to investigate, there were no images on the camera he used, and they eventually dropped the case because it was the little girls word against his, and he denied it. About 2 years later, Phyllis and Zelda were married, and the poor little girl was forced to live in the house of the man who did this to her.

All of this was around 8 years ago. The little girl moved out right after her 18th birthday and just had her first child with her boyfriend. My stepkids didn't see their father for about 3 years, but eventually could not keep themselves from him and the oldest boy now lives with him. The other three mostly keep their distance. Phyllis' actions ruined at least 15 lives in many different and disparate ways, and Zelda's looking the other way only made it worse. 

I'm not going back into my old research on pedophiles, but here is some of what I learned:

  • Recidivism (repeat offences) vary according to the sex and age of child they are attracted to, but most of them have a higher than 50% recidivism rate, and none of them are 0%. So it is fair to treat a pedophile as a potential threat to children for their entire lives.
  • Many pedophiles are caught after multiple offences, many years between them. The weird young uncle that everyone knows has a problem goes off and lives on his own for a couple of decades. He comes back and the memories are faded. Nieces and nephews who have not been properly warned have kids of their own, and a need for babysitters. Uncle Squirrelly happens to have some time on his hands and is happy to help.
  • Pedos are attracted to a particular age and sex, and are not as attracted to anything outside of that. So if they are into 8 year old boys, an 11 year old just won't do.
  • Without rock solid evidence, everything is difficult to prove. If you ever encounter an instance of sexual activity used on a child, act immediately with no hesitation. 

Writing this post was difficult, I have never put it in writing like this before. I am sitting here crying right now. The story is unfortunately true, and the bullet points are important to anyone who works with kids, or needs information on pedophilia. 

Phyllis was very tight with his church, and I believe he went to counselling with them after the incident. I am quite sure that his priest knows whats up and that Phyllis has been absolved of his sins. But in a twist that seems like it should be fiction, I just found out from my stepson that Phyllis retired from truck driving, and is now the janitor of the high school in the small town he lives in. If it weren't for my 3rd point above, I would have went back down to that town and fucked up his life.

I am also divorced from the mom (about 5 years now), although I am no longer officially anything to my stepchildren, I treat them as if they are my own. They are all grown, all of them were seriously affected by this incident, and there are effects to this day. 

Tags: pedophile, pedophilia

Views: 1168

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Hah ha. A one man Oprah special. Me too! It's good to be at a place where you can almost (almost) laugh about your issues.

Thank you for sharing your story. I think I know a pedophile. I have no proof but I cannot think of any other explanation for what I know of his behavior. I plan on warning parents of young children who come into his sphere and I plan to watch him closely. It is such terrible knowledge to have. I hope I am mistaken but I cannot take the risk that I am not.

Thanks for sharing your story. 

Thank you as well. I think that all adults of conscience have to be vigilant regarding child abuse, there is no other way to fix the future.

Here's a GREAT example of how to talk to kids about sex from the time they are little...it starts young. Parents: Talk about it.

I prefer vegetarian pizza, too. (Whatever that means!)

It seems strange after reading of all the people here who have had this horridness happen to them, but I don't beleive it happened in my family.  I have one (1) close friend who had shit happen to him.

I cannot imagine; I literally cannot imagine, what it is like.

I cannot imagine being an apologist for this sort of thing or its enablers, either.

The cold hard truth is that pedophiles SEEK OUT positions of power SO THAT they can conduct their business and not get caught. The Catholic Church is one of many entities that houses or safe guards criminals. There are many many others. The problem really is that due process of law does an poor job of empowering people to speak up and get sex offenders locked up. Those who succeed in doing so are few and far between. 

We need to change the laws in America.

It would probably be better to set up a settlement somewhere permanently away from children and place them there. No kids within 500 miles at least. No cars (or boats if it is an island). They could create their own city among themselves. Ship all the molesters from around the country there. It would very likely save the public a huge amount of money if done right. Plus, there are fewer problems if you wrongly convict someone of molestation.

 

We need to remove the unconstitutional treatment of Catholic priests: crimes talked about in confession must be reported to the police or the priest needs to be charged as an accessory-after-the-fact. Allowing the priests to not report the crimes gives unconstitutional support to Catholicism.

Some people will make boloney claims about confession being "holy". Show me ANY difference between a blessed and an unblessed object/substance. Until you can, confession is just the harboring of criminals. Is it really all that surprising that they would harbor their own criminals? Because that is the Catholic mindset: protect the criminals, not the victims. That is why they are worse than child molesting teachers or coaches. Because all of them – not just the ones directly guilty of molesting – are okay with protecting criminals.

Catholics priests need to start being responsible people

 

I'm curious, @Ward.  If a pedophile knows a priest is obligated to report him to the police, do you think he or she is going to go to confession?

So aside from perhaps catching a molester with an IQ of 12, what exactly would this accomplish?

Hopefully the child molester would feel horrible knowing he won't be forgiven by the priest and would go anyways to end his egregious behavior. Or at least do it a lot less often than he would if he was absolved - basically told by the priest it's okay to abuse children.

It would improve the priests' mindset: they would begin to get the point that it is not okay to harbor criminals. That alone is an improvement over the current arrangement which accomplishes nothing good and corrupts both priests and believers. Teaching people that they are worthless sinners who can't help it but that's okay because apologizing to god will solve everything, only teaches them to be bad people.

We need everyone to understand that apologizing to the sky-daddy does nothing here on Earth; to make things better you need to start by apologizing to the person you wronged and do whatever you can to correct your wrong. Catholic dogma is the opposite of this and makes things worse.

Yes, I want confession to be abolished since it only causes problems as I've explained here.

Other than teaching people it is okay to do bad things to others, what does confession do?

And something to consider before you answer: a real god would already know what had been done and whether or not the person was genuinely remorseful so there is no genuine need for confession in relation to god hearing it.

Hopefully the child molester would feel horrible knowing he won't be forgiven by the priest and would go anyways to end his egregious behavior. Or at least do it a lot less often than he would if he was absolved - basically told by the priest it's okay to abuse children.

Do you really believe a priest is going to offer absolution without the individual being obliged to the penance of turning himself in to the authorities and making other reparation?  Maybe decades ago, when we thought it was more readily treatable and pushed an obligation to treatment.  No longer.

The priest is trying to save the man's soul, and that typically would mean working to ensure he would not harm anyone again.

If you really want to rail against something, rail against the privilege offered to conversations with attorneys.  Unlike the conversation with the priest in a confessional, the attorney is obliged to work his hardest to get the perpetrator off without any punishment or the minimum of punishment.  Not only that, your tax dollars and mine pay for those attorneys.

Do you really believe a priest is going to offer absolution without the individual being obliged to the penance of turning himself in to the authorities and making other reparation?

Considering the Church's decision to codify bad choices, probably. Are there some priests who say such things? Sure. But it's not like they make it a requirement, nor follow up, nor report the pedophile to the police if he doesn't report himself.

Regarding attorneys - that is a function of our broken legal system. It is just one of very many things that needs to be fixed.

I noticed that you avoided answering this question of mine from my previous post: Other than teaching people it is okay to do bad things to others, what does confession do?

Or was that your answer? That as far as you know confession does nothing good ?

RSS

Support T|A

Think Atheist is 100% member supported

All proceeds go to keeping Think Atheist online.

Donate with Dogecoin

Members

Blog Posts

Seeing the man in the child.

Posted by Diane on April 19, 2014 at 9:52am 0 Comments

Videos

  • Add Videos
  • View All

Services we love

We are in love with our Amazon

Book Store!

Gadget Nerd? Check out Giz Gad!

Into life hacks? Check out LabMinions.com

Advertise with ThinkAtheist.com

© 2014   Created by Dan.

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service