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Permalink Reply by Matt on July 18, 2010 at 11:14pm

Agreed. religion has demonstrated time and time again that it is capable of harboring nothing but animosity, ignorance, gullibility, and corruption. oh yeah, and pedophilia. check out this link, everyone. The true nature of Catholicism.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/world/europe/16vatican.html?_r=1&...

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Permalink Reply by Eoganacht on July 22, 2010 at 2:23am

They make a living off that delusion; that's fraudulent and should be prosecuted.

You might be hard pressed to find them a fair trial. Or by 'prosecution' do you mean a witchs' trial? We could have a believer hunt, round them up and have an auto-da-fé. Afterall, it's what they did to us and anyone who disagreed(Their idea of 'justice' is so screwed up.). Repay in kind, I say! Nail them up, I say.
I don't think we'll get very far.

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Permalink Reply by sukhdeep on July 21, 2010 at 12:49pm

the latest example i have comes from a christian intern who i ran into working in a pharmacy where i was helping out because the pharmacist in charge got sick.
one day we were discussing about Plan B and its sale as an OTC drug, and she herself told me a story about the discussion that happened in her class. Here it goes, " Professor comes into the room and asks the class to give him their opinion on Plan B, some kids agreed with it's sale while some did not and some were totally against it and considered it an abortion pill, keep in mind these students are half way done with their pharmacy school, in the second half of the class the professor goes over the mechanism of action and again poses the same question, now most of the students were okay with the sale of Plan B as an OTC drug and she was one of them who changed her mind, but still there were at least 4 students according to her that still would not agree to sell the drug and thought it came into conflict with their beliefs. So this pretty much sums up what i think about christians there are some who are so brain washed that we can't help them; there are some who still have capacity to learn but are still giving cover to the fundamentalists and also supporting their beliefs even if they don't believe them, just because they were raised that way. sam harris has written a couple of books on this topic.

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Permalink Reply by Miles on July 25, 2010 at 9:26am

Delusional, irrational, non-scientific and as a result, dangerous.

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Permalink Reply by Brad White on July 27, 2010 at 12:26am

Thanks for everyone's posts on this discussion. I think it's run it's course, so I'm going to close it for now. I've gotten a lot out of it. Learned a lot from all of you.

I've posted a summary of what I've learned from you on my site.

If anyone else has opinions to share, you can email me at brad@changingthefaceofchristianity.com or post to my site.
Or feel free to send me a direct message to my TA profile.

I do have some follow-up questions to ask that could be interesting discussions...stay tuned.

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Permalink Reply by Brad White on November 8, 2010 at 8:19am

Here is an important update:

As a result of all the great feedback and opinions of Christianity this discussion created, I have re-launched my Changing the Face of Christianity website: Check it out.

I've highlighted the most significant negative stereotypes that us Christians create: such as Christian hypocrisy, Christian intolerance, Christian judgmentalism, and Christian homophobia.

Thanks for all your input. Reminder about my organization's mission: Reversing Christian intolerance, hypocrisy, homophobia, judgmentalism, and other negative Christian stereotypes, by helping Christians to be more like Jesus Christ.

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Permalink Reply by Jesus_Was_A_Man_Or_Myth_Or_Both on November 8, 2010 at 8:23am

Thanks for your great website. I suppose you mean that you want Christians to be more like the Jesus described in the Gospels - that Jesus is mostly myth.

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Permalink Reply by Brad White on November 8, 2010 at 8:39am

I'll agree with your first point. YES, I'm working to help Christians be more like the Jesus described in the Gospels.

On the second point, the Jesus Seminar has made an attempt to position the gospels as myth, but when they take an entire chapter of a gospel and attribute the only actual words of Jesus to be words like "the, is, I tell you, etc...", (e.g. only words without any significance to the text) they are largely discredited.

It would be like me starting the "Darwin Seminar" and saying the only thing that Darwin REALLY said was "Galapagos is an island, through a series of random, common, I observed a colony of ants", etc.

But, I'm sure we'll continue to disagree on that point.

No worries. I think 50% agreement is 50% more than Christians and non-Christians usually get in a conversation...I can live with that :-).

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Permalink Reply by Brad White on November 8, 2010 at 9:55am

Holy cow....I never would have believed that Christians were more open minded than atheists! :-)

My efforts have actually been very well received, and I've gained support within my church and public support is growing. There are many people like me inside our faith which are committed to living our faith and the imitation Christians they see is also very disturbing to them.

Now, I'm not naive. I don't plan on being popular with the entire church body. Those that want to continue to preach hate will certainly tell me what they think about me. But if/when they do, we'll all see their true colors.

Jesus wasn't very popular for shaking things up in the Jewish community either. I just hope I'm not crucified for it :-).

Take care. Brad

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