Don't tell me you never had this question asked to you, subsequently to your, usually politely, explaining to whoever asks about your religion, that you're an atheist and do not believe in any god; you're an atheist and do not believe that a god exists; or whatever combination of words you choose.

That's pretty much how it goes.

Even people who know that atheists do not believe in a god will sometimes still assume they share a common set of beliefs or principles, and have common political tendencies.

"So, what do atheists believe?", is their question.

If you ask me, I've had a wide variety of comebacks, depending on my mood at the moment, most of them facetious, but most likely, after explaining that atheists (as a group) do not have a common set of beliefs, I say that *I* believe in love, in humanity and our good faith... just to keep it simple... because, quite frankly, we don't "believe" in science - we find it verifiable. We don't "believe" in the universe and its wonders, we have seen them through amazing telescopes. I guess you get my point.

So what do you, fellow atheist, believe in, or what do you think is the best answer to this question?

 

Side note: This discussion is focused rather on the best comeback to the question in it, which in this specific context, is always asked as "opposed to your non-belief in god, what do atheists believe?"

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your question again, is off topic. 

We all have to figure out what life means for ourself.

 

It might have a meaning for you, but without God, it has no objective meaning.

 

can you back up that claim? or are you just spouting something you heard someone say?

 

please, we are intelligent people here looking for a reasonable response to the questions posed to you, yet you continue to tell us we are boring yet provide no evidence to support your claims of god other than the bible tells me so... there are reasons that is a song taught to kindergarten children!

 

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Normally "objective" means "factually the case." What is there about a belief in God that makes the meaning of life an objective fact, or based on objective facts? In other words, what makes the meaning of life empirically true, and therefor verifiable?

please, we are intelligent people here looking for a reasonable response to the questions posed to you, 

 

the initial question was made to YOU, atheist, not to me, theist. Would YOU mind to answer ?

the initial question was made to YOU, atheist, not to me, theist. Would YOU mind to answer ?

 

if you read my  posts, i have answered you a few times now what i believe. not all atheists believe in the same things as not all christians  believe in the same things. what exactly are you looking for? the word has been defined for you, a basic explaination of what a few of us believe in has been provided to you. are you looking for a book of atheist doctrine? don't bother as there  are none!

 

we will agree that people who come on here with an attitude of superiority as you have deserve little attention, yet we are gracious to those who ask and will continue to give you answers you will continue to ignore and then claim persecution though you are on an ATHEIST website preaching the love and ignorance your god forces you to preach while claiming to love us while treating us like babies with your infantile responses to the real questions we ask you over and over again.

 

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You're right. She was talking to atheists, not theists. You have no standing here.

Congratulations, you've ruined a perfectly innocent thread. You've clearly misunderstood what it was that Monica asked. I suggest you read over the original post again, or better yet, translate it into Portuguese so you can better understand the context of the post in your own language. 

Congratulations, you've ruined a perfectly innocent thread. You've clearly misunderstood what it was that Monica asked.

 

I ve read again, what Monica asked, and i perfectly understood her question, and you too did. What bothers you in reality, is, that this is a very unconvenient question, since it makes you face the fact that strong atheism is a position without rational support based on the scientific evidence, and philosophical reasons, and religious ones, we have. the more time pasts, the more strong atheism looses rational ground. And its obvious because it is so. But that obviousity is ignored by most atheists, because they are not atheists because they thought about what makes most sense to belive, but because they wish to rool their life without a disturbing God which tells them what is right, what is wrong.....

Lol really/ Is anyone here actually taking this kid seriously? 

"What bothers you in reality, is, that this is a very unconvenient question, since it makes you face the fact that strong atheism is a position without rational support based on the scientific evidence, and philosophical reasons, and religious ones, we have. the more time pasts, the more strong atheism looses rational ground."

 

so yor are asking is atheism supportable by evidence? to be quite honest, the most logical response and the most honest response it to be an agnostic meaning without knowledge. that position requires no evidence to support and takes into consideration all the evidence religions have abused humanity with for thousands of years.

 

most atheists arrive at their conclusions by weighing the evidence as reported by the various holy texts used to propagate hatred and cruelty and terror in the name of some deity, and found them all lacking in believable, credible, empirical evidence that does not come from fake scientists trying to prove their holy book is correct while science proves beyond any measure of a doubt that it is correct.

 

to summarize. the claim of a divine entity is completely the possession of the religious people, thus, to disprove it is not our problem, but yours to support with evidence other than the bible tells you so.

 

this is not IGNORED as you put it, by most atheists, but simply a point not worth discussion as the theist fails time and time again to prove their claim of god's existence.  to claim we are atheists because we want to  ignore your god misses the point entirely and is the stuff anti-atheist sermons are built on. you live your live in fear of god rejecting you on judgement day and tell us we are going to hell or to be destroyed or whatever it is you believe because rationally, your god does not make sense, nor does the book you claim as truth!

 

i once heard it said that jesus was either god, man or crazy when he claimed he was god. the jew rejected that claim as did the romans. was he a man? well, there is no evidence other than a forged reference in the historian Josephus' work to suggest he even existed, but was probably a compilation of many of the jesus' or messiahs known to be in the region at the time. do we believe he is god? no, do we believe he was man? not until the evidence PROVES he was a man. do we believe he was crazy? well, with numbers 1 and 2 not proven, we are left with only one choice. you decide!

 

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 to be quite honest, the most logical response and the most honest response it to be an agnostic meaning without knowledge

 

Oh yeah, i know that  escape. You have a brain . Use it !! 

 

that position requires no evidence to support and takes into consideration all the evidence religions have abused humanity with for thousands of years.

 

That is not evidence that God does not exist !! 

 

most atheists arrive at their conclusions by weighing the evidence as reported by the various holy texts used to propagate hatred and cruelty and terror in the name of some deity, and found them all lacking in believable, credible, empirical evidence that does not come from fake scientists trying to prove their holy book is correct while science proves beyond any measure of a doubt that it is correct.

 

How about presenting POSITIVE evidence for strong atheism ??

just remembering , there are only two alternatives :

 

a eternal universe in one form or the other, or a univerese, that popped-up out of absolutely nothing. Pick your choice, and explain, why you think its a compelling alternative. Good luck !! 

 

 to disprove it is not our problem, but yours to support with evidence other than the bible tells you so.

 

But THIS topic is about explain what YOU believe, and why !! 

How about answering that ? Otherwise, you are on the wrong place here.

 

 you live your live in fear of god rejecting you on judgement day

 

You got it completely wrong. I believe in a LOVING God, which made everything so that i could become a son of God, and therefore forgiveness for sin, and eternal life. 

 


 



We should have to explain why we don't think "Some super dude created the universe" is a ridiculous explanation for the existence of the universe? That's a laff and a haff.

 

Current thinking is that the universe didn't pop out of nothing, although from inside the universe it might look that way. There are membranes and when one bumps into another one something happens. Witness the universe.

 

Claiming that some super dude made the universe really isn't an explanation at all, and if all you've got to support it is some tribal mythology from the Middle East, that is just so pathetic.

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