sigh another lame religious person talking to me on youtube.

I really think I should justs top engaging with these people...=-= they will say whatever they want and ignore you completely as proven in the following talk with one person on youtube.

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+MrRondonmon oh..but you arent trolling ah I see...so satan is more powerful than god then?
MrRondonmon
Yesterday 10:15 PM



 
 
+GrindingGearsTV I never said Satan was more powerful than God, but man gave Satan the birth right to this world when he followed Satan and separated himself from God.

I will use the scripture, which I know, but you might/probably don't know.

2 Corinthians 4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Luke4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said unto him, { All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.}

Like I said, Satan is the god of this world. You have to seek God out, or have someone praying for you that God hears.

God has taken His protection off this country, and the curse of perversion is now upon us.

Romans one is not really talking about homosexuals, if you read it, it is talking about God, tired of being denied as the OBVIOUS God/Creator, has cursed/given the nation over unto perversions OF ALL TYPE.
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GrindingGearsTV
Yesterday 10:42 PM



 
 
+MrRondonmon  I never said Satan was more powerful than God, but man gave Satan the birth right to this world when he followed Satan and separated himself from God.


He didnt follow satan they were tempted by a snake in the garden non of the books say that the snake was satan you have been told a lie. :/. Also was not that not gods plan to give man sin so he could then cleanse them of sin? If not then why have sin at all? why have a tree at all or a garden? This is also sadly not what we find when we look at REALITY. We evolved we are animals specifically a primate with a big brain yet we are FAR from perfect that you tout your god is yet we are clearly not made in the image of a PERFECT god so unless you admit god is imperfect your argument is void :/

I will use the scripture, which I know, but you might/probably don't know.

I was training to be a pastor I probably know scripture better then you do 

2 Corinthians 4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Isiah 45:7 I am the lord thy god I create both good and EVIL

Luke4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said unto him, { All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.}

Yet the devil still won because jesus did not become king of the jews an actual king as JEWISH prophecies claim....nor did he say he was god nor did he say he was the son of god he only said he was the messiah which means in hebrew messenger.

Like I said, Satan is the god of this world. You have to seek God out, or have someone praying for you that God hears.

The god is evil malevolent if he lets something he created run rampant on this world yet I know there is no satan because of this passage. I am the lord they god before me there is NO OTHER GOD. so therefore the devil doesnt exist because only god exists correct?

God has taken His protection off this country, and the curse of perversion is now upon us.

The why doesn't he do somehting? WHAT HAVE WE DONE THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE SO BAD! WHAT COULD WE HAVE DONE THAT COULD WARRANT THE WRATH OF YOUR GOD CONCEPT. If he's willing but not able then he is not omnipotent

Romans one is not really talking about homosexuals, if you read it, it is talking about God, tired of being denied as the OBVIOUS God/Creator, has cursed/given the nation over unto perversions OF ALL TYPE.

Yet exodus says "if a  man lie with another man as he does with a woman surely they shall both be put to death you shall take them out of the town therein and stone them..."

Are we to ignore this ^?
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MrRondonmon
Yesterday 10:59 PM



 
 
+GrindingGearsTV Isaiah 45:7 ExpQuestion: "Why does Isaiah 45:7 say that God created evil?"

Answer: Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” How does Isaiah 45:7 agree with the view that God did not create evil? There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible translations render the word: “disaster” (NIV, HCSB), “calamity” (NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe” (NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.

(2) The context of Isaiah 45:7 makes it clear that something other than “bringing moral evil into existence” is in mind. The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against Him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” So, rather than saying that God created “moral evil,” Isaiah 45:7 is presenting a common theme of Scripture – that God brings disaster on those who continue in hard-hearted rebellion against Him.


Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Isaiah-45-7.html#ixzz3R1oiwVsA
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GrindingGearsTV
Yesterday 11:24 PM



 
 
+MrRondonmon sigh keep wanting to rebuttal this and it keeps closing look..I will shorten this all to this.

"you used the wrong version argument. You took it out of context argument" blah blah blah we are here in the year 2015 where men have unlocked evolution is evolution true yes or no? Thats all I care about...Still we humans can fly into space higher then any tower of babel...yet god still hasnt stopped us nor confused our language again. Nor has he sent another worldwide flood yet our bras and casinos must be worse then the days of noah....heck we have been to the moon yet here you are defending a book written by imperfect men who were writing a fiction a fairy tale....ask yourself why you dismiss the koran, the badva gita, the mahabharata, the vedas, the book of mormon, the torah and maybe you'll understand why I prefer my uncomfortable truth to your horrible yet reassuring lie....say are you wearing dual fibers or eating lobster or pork? I am sure you have a way to defend that too dont you?
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MrRondonmon
Yesterday 11:30 PM



 
 
+GrindingGearsTV  (Gen 3:1) "Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?"

(2 Cor 11:3) "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."

(Rev 12:9) "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."     ( Jesus told John the boo of Revelation himself.)    

No, Gods plan was to create man in His own image, not even the Angels were created in Gods own image. We have powerful felling's and great love like unto God. No, we did not evolve, and there is zero proof of this, no links at all, just a lie from the god of this world. Remember, Jesus said the Pharisees were of their father Satan, either you are of God, or Satan is using you to do his will. Hence the agenda of the academic worlds, even if they don't know it.

Jesus was the Sacrificial Lamb of all man kind, He will become King of the Jews upon his second coming.

John 14:7-10 [7] If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." [8] Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."   [9] Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, `Show us the Father'?  [10] Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
John 10:30  "I and the Father are one." ( JESUS SID HE WAS GOD )

God was speaking to Israel, saying there are no other Gods but me. But in reality, Satan is not a GOD, but rather a god of this world, a ruler of this world, until the time of the End is Here.


We have denied God is the creator, thus God has cursed us with homosexuality and abortion. We have gotten the evil rulers we deserved. We have killed 57 million babies.

You did not catch the concept, I never said homosexuality was not an evil, just as stealing is wrong, so is homosexuality, but the point was, with all this evolution, and there is no God talk, God has given the nation over to perversions, to homosexuality, to abortion, to lesbianism etc. etc.

The laws of Moses were not the original covenant, the promise of the seed was. The SEED was Jesus Christ. The wages of sin is death. The sin of homosexuality will die, there will be none in heaven.

God is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow, He never changes.
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MrRondonmon
Yesterday 11:48 PM



 
 
+GrindingGearsTV  No one has proved evolution true ( remember it is a theory ) there has NEVE BEEN ANY LINKS FOUND You have believed the lie of the SERPENT/SATAN.

We are in the end time, scripture proves this.

Jesus said in the last days, he abomination of desolation will stand in the Temple of God proclaiming himself as God ( Israel had to be reborn as Ezekiel predicted 2500 years ago before this could come to pass, hence the END DAYS had to be after Israel was reborn, Jesus said this generation will not pass until I return. 2018 is 70 years.

Daniel said in the END TIMES, people will travel TO and FRO. And Knowledge will INCREASE.( Planes, cars, spaceships, computers, satellites etc. etc.

These two conjoined tells us the end is near.

The European Union is the Revived Roman Empire, Obama is making his paths straight by bringing America down as a world power, and leading AMERICA TOWARDS A FINANCIAL MELTDOWN, This European Ruler will step in and supernaturally fix the worlds financial meltdown, but America will never be the same, because we led the meltdown, the world will trust this BEAST. He will be trusted with solving the Israeli / Arab conflict and will bring forth a 7 year peace deal. In the middle ( 3 1/2 years, 1260 days, 42 months, he will abandon the peace deal, state that he is the Messiah, God and cause all to worship him as such, or kill them. The False Prophet ( more than likely a Pope ) will say that the Beast is the Messiah, whom was killed, and has risen from his wound.

The end is close. The signs align.
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GrindingGearsTV
12:14 AM



 
 
+MrRondonmon  (Gen 3:1) "Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?"

Yet an ALL KNOWING god wouldnt ask if they had done it he would already know thus the biblical god is not all knowing =-= as proven by your statement.

(2 Cor 11:3) "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."

Doesn't prove its satan :/ just proves god made the snake to tempt man thus it must be apart of his 'divine plan'

(Rev 12:9) "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."     ( Jesus told John the boo of Revelation himself.)    

but that doesnt mean it is the serpent of genesis jesus once called the pharisees a pit of vipers are they that old serpent? How does this prove anything? how do you know revelations author knew about what genesis said let alone who wrote that book..you dont know =_=

No, Gods plan was to create man in His own image, not even the Angels were created in Gods own image. We have powerful felling's and great love like unto God. No, we did not evolve, and there is zero proof of this, no links at all, just a lie from the god of this world. Remember, Jesus said the Pharisees were of their father Satan, either you are of God, or Satan is using you to do his will. Hence the agenda of the academic worlds, even if they don't know it.

What a terrible image god has then have you looked between your legs lately ? That bit of plumbing is terrible especially the gallbladder, and many other things wrong with our bodies whos names escape me and I am far to lazy to look because I know you dont care either...

Jesus was the Sacrificial Lamb of all man kind, He will become King of the Jews upon his second coming.

Exactly why he was a carbon copy of the old testament laws of doing the same thing ...to a sheep on the sabbath....funny that....

John 14:7-10 [7] If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." [8]

So god is human then? If so I dont have to listen to him if not then "no one has seen the father" therefore no one has seen jesus therefore he didnt exist where is your proof bor?

Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."   [9] Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, `Show us the Father'?  [10] Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
John 10:30  "I and the Father are one." ( JESUS SID HE WAS GOD )

And thomas said "I will not believe untill I touch the wounds in his hands and the wound on his side" Therefore...no touchy jesus himself physically I dont believe...sorry bro but I have waited 25 years for jesus to appear...jesus is nto coming back bro

God was speaking to Israel, saying there are no other Gods but me. But in reality, Satan is not a GOD, but rather a god of this world, a ruler of this world, until the time of the End is Here.

Why only israel? Why was god so intent on that lame desert sure lets not appeal to the chinese who at this time of jesus were starting to study science and really trying to understand the world and take record of earth quakes and stars and shooting stars...no lets have another revelation in the illiterate part of the middle east...again...

We have denied God is the creator, thus God has cursed us with homosexuality and abortion. We have gotten the evil rulers we deserved. We have killed 57 million babies.

Homosexuallity must be a part of gods plan "for god so loved the world" "LEt ye who is without sin cast the first stone" "you must have the faith of a child for the kingdom of heaven belongs to them.." Therefor aborted babies are now safe in heaven and baby gays are now part of gods loving plan...pwnd also only 57 million? god in the bible has killed more babies then that also how does this stop people like david? and saul? and samuel who were ORDERED by god to kill babies except the women?

You did not catch the concept, I never said homosexuality was not an evil, just as stealing is wrong, so is homosexuality, but the point was, with all this evolution, and there is no God talk, God has given the nation over to perversions, to homosexuality, to abortion, to lesbianism etc. etc.

how is it wrong what makes it wrong? Is it a choice or are they born that way? Is my bisexualality a choice? Or am I born this way? What is so bad about it? I honestly want to know where it says that homosexuality is bad.

The laws of Moses were not the original covenant, the promise of the seed was. The SEED was Jesus Christ. The wages of sin is death. The sin of homosexuality will die, there will be none in heaven.

Matthew 5: 15-19 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 

God is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow, He never changes.

"yet god had repented that he made man"

Exodus 32:14 proclaims, “Then the LORD relented and did not bring on His people the disaster He had threatened.


Opps ....guess god changed right there....uh oh poking them holes bro...also is this supposed to convince me I have heard this all before...theres no point....according to you I am going to hell arent i? hmm is that it?

I could go on but none of this will convince you? No course not yet the burden of proof is still on you to prove that the biblical god exists yet...so far....you are not following gods laws...so whats to say you are not going to hell too?

matthew 19:23 . 23And Jesus said to His disciples, "Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven

I think you having a computer makes you more rich then that rich man....oh wait I almost forgot.

mark 10:21 21Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, "One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

...uh oh...why havent you obeyed? looks like your fucked bro

MAtthew 18:3
and said, "Truly I say to you, unless you are converted and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter" MAtthew 7:21 oh wait his will...which includes following the old testament laws.....

matthew 5:20 20"For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

uh oh....that means knowing and fOLLOWING the old laws...check..and mate my friend still didnt answer evolution or how you can dismiss all the other holy books of all the other religions.
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GrindingGearsTV
12:17 AM



 
 
+MrRondonmon sigh im done argueing with you all the same BS I got told before....yet many people have said it is the end times...if you want it so badly...why dont you cause it? come on I am sure god will be please come on blows us all up come on its been 2000 years.....no? I mean we keep waiting why didnt he do it on 6/6/06 ? or 7/7/07? or may 21 2012 as predicted bya follower of him? oh...and all the other times.....im done with you...you wont listen...you poop on the chess board and claim victory...good bye
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MrRondonmon
12:25 AM



 
 
I am actually a 2100 rated Chess player, bad analogy.

I answered all your questions, then you say well you are changing the meaning, no YOU JUST DIDNT LOOK deep enough at original construction, when in doubt this is very important.

As for the end times, like I said, Jesus and Daniel gave a clue as to when the season would be, no man knows the day nor the hour. But Jesus also stated their would be signs in the stars and moon. We are in the midst of a Tetrad of four blood moons falling on Jewish Feast days. The last two saw Israel reborn, and Israel win the Six days war.

The four beast od Daniel are easily explained.

I get the sense you spent all your bible study time trying to disprove God exists.
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GrindingGearsTV
12:28 AM



 
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+MrRondonmon Nope it was trying to prove he does...it failed...also on your evolution how about you go do some research on theory first kay? also I said by you didnt answer anything you gave the same apologetic spheal I have heard time and time again...you dont know whats out there you only claim to know...youa re brainwashed...I hope I am there when you realize your religion is BS.

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