Should we circumcise?
My wife and I are trying to have a baby. One of the biggest concerns we have if it is a boy is circumcision. I am circumcised and my first reaction is to say "Well I wouldn't go back so it is the right choice". But unfortunately there is more to it than that. Circumcision started, in my mind, to remove sexual pleasure from the male because sex was the road to sin and only for reproduction and should not be enjoyed. Many nerves are removed from circumcision and I have heard sex is more pleasurable for males not circumcised, but unfortunately that is hard to know for sure.
Then there is the idea that it is a part of our culture now and completely acceptable. But what is it really other than male genital mutilation? They say that is is healthier, but I have also heard that the data for that claim is inconclusive.
Female circumcision disgust me and yet many cultures practice it. To them it is normal. I am sure that uncircumcised females in those cultures have "ugly" vaginas to them just as a lot of women have told me that an uncircumcised penis is "ugly".
I have seen a circumcision and it is horrifying. I dont know if I should do this to my future son. There is the part of me that thinks it is normal and I should. Then there is the part of me that sees it as another brutal religious act setup by an ancient brutal god to remove our sexuality that we, for some reason, still practice like idiots. Then we go through all this trouble to "prove" it is healthy to mutilate sex organs to justify the insane act.
What are some of your thoughts on this?
Tags: circumcision, mutilation
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Permalink Reply by SteveInCO on -
I knew someone who had her son circumcized on the grounds that she herself would not give a blowjob to someone who was not circumcized. So her reasoning was, in essence, "I want my son to get blowjobs."
I wonder if he ever knew, and ever thanked her. (Assuming her reasoning was valid.)
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Permalink Reply by xi on -
so with the sample size of one pretty girl. get your boy cut...it may benefit him beyond his wildest dreams one day :)
..seriously if it is a concern whether to or not, ask a few physicians. they may grant more insight then random links to random studies, none from any MD's.
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Permalink Reply by John Jon on -
it looks weird with out a circumcision just do it for the looks not the religious aspect
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Permalink Reply by Unseen on -
And for all you guys who have friction problems, wear underwear, and if you are wearing underwear and have friction problems, wear briefs not boxers.
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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on -
OR - and this is a bit simpler - don't get circumcised!
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Permalink Reply by Cameron on -
Big feet look weird on a girl. Fuck what she may want, bind her feet! It's pretty
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Permalink Reply by Cameron on
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bah! She can enjoy total mobility on tiny feet. Maybe not full speed, but what's she going to be running from?
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Permalink Reply by Jaret on -
If it was common to remove women's labia minora, a woman with "flaps" would look weird. Some guys would only go down on women who have had their "flaps removed". I think we must think out of our culture on this one. Removing the forskin while leaving the head of the penis intact is the same as removing the labia minora and clitoral hood while keeping the clitoris intact. Every argument for men can also be applied to women on this subject. It would probably help prevent STIs, it is probably easier to clean and keep clean. It would probably look more attractive to some. It would probably not cause much harm to pleasure, at least not any they would know about having it done.
Why then, in our culture, is it common for parents to remove the foreskin while we find it abusive and cruel to remove the labia minora at birth?
We consider one genital mutilation and the other is tradition or beneficial even though both practices are essentially the same thing with the same risks and benefits.
It is because of this that I do not want to circumcise my child. However it is because of comments such as the ones posted by Sophie that make the decision hard. My wife has the same view, however she leans to non circumcision as well. It is not their fault they find it unattractive and they are not shallow, but it is a fact.
I have had an amazing sex life and I love blowjobs. I have a concern that my child may not have as an enjoyable sexual identity if he is not circumcised because women may see an uncircumcised penis as weird and be turned off. I do not want my future son to have to bear this burdon, and this is why I am so torn.
There is the idea that if a woman doesn't love him simply because of his penis then she is shallow and it is for the best. But what about outside of love. I doubt any of us saved sex exclusively for marriage or even exclusively for love. Experimenting in our teen years was an enjoyable experience for me even though my partners and I were not in love, and I am concerned some of those women would have been turned off by an uncircumcised penis and I would not have had the same experiences. Of corse I wouldn't know the difference probably.
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Permalink Reply by kOrsan on -
Ditch that whole "male circumcision = female circumcision" shit, it's idiotic. Removing the clitoris is not the same as removing a flap of skin. The glans are to men what the clitoris are to the women, not the foreskin. It's like comparing noses to ears. The reason you were considering circumcision for you son is the health benefit, cleanliness and attractiveness. The only reason that female circumcision is done is to prevent the woman from feeling any kind of pleasure and therefore not cheat on her husband. If male and female circumcision were the same you couldn't orgasm, but you obviously can and do enjoy it, so it's not the same shit.You can't compare the both, no matter how hard and viciously some people try.
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