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Permalink Reply by Dogly on June 30, 2012 at 8:55am

The baby of a man who gave in to a moment of passion cries  just as loudly as the baby of the man who outright refused to use a condom, 

Permalink Reply by Dogly on June 30, 2012 at 8:58am

@ KOrsan   And just HOW do you manage to "make sure she takes the pill"?  Use a condom.  A man NEVER knows whether or not a woman is taking birth control pills.  And they don't always work.  What do you call a man who just 'trusts' that a woman is using birth control pills?  A FATHER!

Permalink Reply by Unseen on June 30, 2012 at 9:16am

@Dogly   The baby of a man who gave in to a moment of passion cries  just as loudly as the baby of the man who outright refused to use a condom,

You're ignoring the real solution: Females who refuse to have sex without a condom. Ultimately, since it's the female who gets the big belly, the stretch marks, and hemorrhoids which all too often attend pregnancy, and who all too frequently are stuck with raising the child as a single parent, you'd think a female would want to avoid getting pregnant. If SHE can't muster enough will power to tell the guy "no rubber, no sex" why should we expect HIM to think that way?

Permalink Reply by Dogly on June 30, 2012 at 9:36am

Unseen, you say," If SHE can't muster enough will power to tell the guy "no rubber, no sex",  why should we expect HIM to think that way?"  I don't expect all men to be careful about not having unwanted children.   I would hope that those science minded, realistic, rational, atheist men would.  Children are not a punishment, they just ARE.  And it is silly to apply blame for a pregnancy after the fact.  Each individual man and woman is responsible for any child conceived. 

Permalink Reply by CaperMel on June 30, 2012 at 10:49am

I agree most don't use condoms out of moments of passion. As long as people are smart and don't sleep around they will be safe. Some people are allergic to latex, have you ever used a non-latex condom ? Minus well wrap a sandwhich bag around it. For that reason ; I refuse sex if he wears a condom. I'm not against people using protection, I'm just saying its not for everyone ... Same as religion isnt for everyone... Thats why science created birth control :) When did this topic switch to condom usage ? I need to go back and read some more haha.

Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on June 5, 2012 at 12:34am

Actually, Govenor Rick "Oops" Perry mandated those in Texas, but his decision was overturned.

I'm not opposed to the vaccine, just to the mandate (and Rick Perry!) --

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Permalink Reply by Cara Coleen on June 5, 2012 at 12:41am

Do you also oppose the MMR vaccine mandate?

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Permalink Reply by Cara Coleen on June 5, 2012 at 12:42am

I suppose there isn't a mandate, but I happen to think there should be; I think herd immunity trumps superstition. Of course, you should be allowed to opt out if your Dr thinks there's significant risk for your child.

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on June 5, 2012 at 1:53am

I'm against ANY mandate - as it opposes free thought, as clearly, so do you.

Permalink Reply by Jaret on June 30, 2012 at 5:34pm

I agree with Archaeopteryx on the mandate. I live in Texas. The vaccine only vaccinated against one of the many strains of HPV. Some girls died within hours of getting the vaccine. It did not have proper testing. 

Im not saying that vaccines are bad. Just that you should have a choice to look at the evidence for yourself and decide. "Do I want to get the vaccine and have a slim chance of dying tomorrow? Or not get the vaccine and have a slim chance of dying many many years in the future."

If we start mandating stuff that seems like common sense, it is only a matter of time before the majority votes to mandate Christianity because to them it seems like common sense to them. And if you dont become a christian, you are going to hell. So it would be for your health technically. we cannot go down that road. 

Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on June 30, 2012 at 7:06pm

I'm guessing that was another "Oops!" moment for Texas Governor Rick Perry --

Permalink Reply by Ross O'Neil on June 5, 2012 at 5:14pm

In Canada it is covered for females older than 14 and there is a suggestion that it will be indicated and covered for males very soon as well.

I must admit I was very skeptical of this vaccination, it hit with a very hard marketing campaign and very limited data set and had government policy makers convinced very quickly.  I was suspicious of financial kickbacks etc.  I have offered it to all my teenage patients but have been very neutral.  I am a little more convinced of its benefits and do recommend it to all patients.  It's still more important to get regular PAP smears as they are very effective at preventing harm from cervical cancer.  Easier in Canada because they are covered for all.  If I was in the U.S.  I would be much more proactive for the vaccine especially for groups without access to regular healthcare.

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