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Permalink Reply by justin gold on February 22, 2011 at 7:42am

I agree,I was looking at a map the other day of the pre 2nd world war Palestine,Now I know the west was trying to help the Jews after the atrocities of the Nazis and give them some land that was said to be rightfully theirs according to some ancient book but many hundreds of years had gone bye,furthermore the line of territory was more or less equal to give the Israeli and Palestinians half each which the Palestinians eventually agreed to but the Israelis did not.Have a look at the map today and you will see why the Arabs are pissed off and rightfully so in my eyes,And even today the Israelis keep on pushing the Palestinians out.The sad part about this is that Israel has had U.S backing all the way probably due to a large Jewish population that the U.S has and then wonder why there's so much hate aimed towards the west by Arab states,the Palestinian people have been fucked over by the west and I for one feel deeply ashamed for it.

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Permalink Reply by Jaume on February 22, 2011 at 8:43am

...half each which the Palestinians eventually agreed to but the Israelis did not.

 

It's a complex issue but for the most part it was actually the other way around. However one can't really blame the Arabs for frowning upon the deal. They had virtually no hand in pogroms and the extermination of Jews, and their only reward is they're told to give half their land to immigrants from Europe and Russia. Who would cheerfully accept this?

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Permalink Reply by Hope on February 22, 2011 at 9:20am

Hi Jaume,

It's not a complex issue at all... not to mention that it's the holy land of the Abrahamic religions..

Simply,

Arabs are calling for a Palestinian state..Israelis seeking protection from the US..

The US most protect the security of Israel for the sake of the zombie's return!

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Permalink Reply by Jaume on February 22, 2011 at 10:02am

It's not the present situation I had in mind, but the decision process that led to the UN Partition Plan (1947) and its acceptance (or opposition) by both parties. I think that's what Justin was talking about.

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Permalink Reply by Mo Trauen on February 25, 2011 at 12:46am

Not to mention the need to placate a certain group of very influential voters here in the USA.

 

It's all about religion again.  Numerous studies show that the Palestinians are actually closely related genetically to the Jews.  IOW, the Palestinians are the descendants of the Jews who stayed in Judea/Palestine, converted to Islam and intermarried with the Arabs.  Likewise, the "Jews" almost all reflect a considerable genetic "heritage" from their own intermingling with the indigenous populations of the countries in which they lived for centuries.  IOW, again, the difference between the two groups is who stayed and who left--and religion.  Religion is what separates them now and what gives them competing claims to the same land.

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Permalink Reply by justin gold on February 22, 2011 at 12:58pm

Yes sorry Jaume,my mistake,but have a look for youselfs at a before,during and as it is now map of Palestine and you will see why the Palestinian people are pissed off.let's hope the new government in egypt will open the borders to get the much needed aid to the Palestinians on the Gaza strip as the rest of the world stood back and let Israel dictate.

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Permalink Reply by Ryan E. Hoffman on February 23, 2011 at 12:08am

They were pissed off the second Israel was created. Israel invaded the Gaza strip after being declared war on and attacked by Egypt with the assistance of Palestine the day after it was recognized as a nation by the U.N. They gave back 80% of the land after kicking Egypt's ass (with our help), and kept the Gaza strip. That's what happens when you declare war on a country and lose. You lose territory. Sorry :/

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Permalink Reply by Jaume on February 22, 2011 at 4:22pm

It reminds me I once heard an American political commentator describing the Iran-Iraq war as "Arabs fighting each other", an Israeli say something like "Iran is the most threatening of the Arab countries", and the list goes on. Of course, Iranians belong to the Indo-Iranian group - i.e., the 'Aryans' of old. Linguistically at least, it'd make more sense to liken Iranians to Nazis than to Arabs.

And of course, the Western religion is actually a Middle-Eastern one. This part of the world is an endless semantic well of contradictions and misconceptions.

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Permalink Reply by T A A on February 22, 2011 at 8:40pm

That's what happens when when English dictionaries are descriptive rather than prescriptive, everyone uses words to have their own personal meaning, words then become meaningless, and we end up with communications breakdowns. It is the English way with words, vocabulary, spelling, and grammar are undervalued by the English culture and general, and anyone who dares care about such things is called a Nazi... brilliant :)

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Permalink Reply by Chris G on February 22, 2011 at 11:27pm

Illegitimate vs. illegal is why the U.N. envoy from the U.S. voted down the settlement resolution.

 

Palestinians plan 'day of rage' after US vetoes resolution on Israe...

 

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Permalink Reply by Terry H. on February 23, 2011 at 9:31pm

A day of childish temper tantrums, fueled by the ignorance and bigotry of sheiks and imams....

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Permalink Reply by Pope OoO (Out of Order) on February 24, 2011 at 7:12pm

OMG, how sick, this once-perfect English!

(Yes, I can finally tell when you're just kidding, thanks to Good English.)

But in case of emergency, please insert non-ambiguous, non-sickly neo-smilies.

here

 

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