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Permalink Reply by Ben on February 22, 2011 at 12:47pm

I will reword this. Even if its in our financial interest we should not be there. I do not think we should help the Saudi's or Israel. China or Taiwan, North or South Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbs, Albanians etc. The cost of tanks, jets, feeding and clothing troops could be used in much more productive ways. I dont think we need to get rid of our military or cut spending completely, however, we should have a force for National defense and not for policing other countries.

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Permalink Reply by Jaume on February 22, 2011 at 3:15pm

You're way too rational for this irrational world. Your president Eisenhower saw the threat coming and warned the country against it, to no avail it seems. Like it was unavoidable. The cost of tanks, etc. - that's what keeps the MIC alive, and it's here to stay. It'd take the total collapse of the US economy to kill the beast - or a major social revolution.

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Permalink Reply by Jaume on February 22, 2011 at 5:33pm

I disagree, that's total BS.

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Permalink Reply by Jaume on February 22, 2011 at 5:47pm

I can't remember both of us disagreeing on anything so far (?) I thought a change would be welcome - and refreshing.

Permalink Reply by Hope on February 23, 2011 at 12:23am

@ Adriana and Jaume.. Wow!

I liked your courage comments!

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Permalink Reply by Terry H. on February 24, 2011 at 8:28pm

The military industrial complex....

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Permalink Reply by Becky Glynn on February 22, 2011 at 12:46pm

The Shock Doctrine and Confessions...are great books!  They also make you wonder if 95% of the US is asleep or just doesn't care.  I think Albert hit it right on the head, as far as people even knowing where another country is or what is/has been going on there, most people do not.  Ask someone in the weapons, pharmaceuticals, or oil business, and they know exactly where you are talking about and have an "informed" (said with a smirk) opinion on the goings on and HOW the US should "fix it".

No one needs our help - they need us to stay the hell out of their business!  As is typical of - don't everybody freak out - old white men, they believe with all of their religious souls that they have the RIGHT to be in everybody's business - even in this country.

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Permalink Reply by T A A on February 22, 2011 at 7:16pm

95% of the US is asleep or just doesn't care

 

The power structure that rules the USA (multinationals, seeds/pesticides, pharmaceuticals, alcohol, tobacco, guns an MIC) have taken the old art of propaganda and turned it into an exact science. Another example of a good science going bad. One needs only to spend some time in marketing classes at university to understand the incredible power of tapping into the human subconscious to accomplish your aims. Those 95% of people, mostly religious, mostly under-literate, simply do not have the tools to fight the science of marketing/propaganda. Members of the political elite purposefully make political debates look stupid and hateful in order to make people hate politicians/politics. In so doing, people drop out of democracy. The 95% are not at fault per se, they are only slaves. They are parents and homeowners, who are always only one paycheck away from poverty, living their life in fear of losing their material comforts. It is hopeless to try and change those 95%, it's the top 5% that must be removed, in order for the remainder to deal a new game.

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Permalink Reply by Pope OoO (Out of Order) on February 24, 2011 at 7:57pm

it's the top 5% that must be removed

But how?

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Permalink Reply by Jaume on February 24, 2011 at 8:17pm

Easy. There's a lot of people trying to emigrate from Tunisia, Libya, and similar places at the moment. Analysts say they could number in hundreds of thousands very soon, and Europe don't want them. Let them come to the US. I've been told they have a knack for removing people from the power seat.

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Permalink Reply by Pope OoO (Out of Order) on February 24, 2011 at 10:29pm

Haha, I will donate my slingshot. And an mp3 player, and coupons for ice cream.

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Permalink Reply by Morgan Matthew on February 22, 2011 at 4:22pm

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