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Permalink Reply by Dr. del Toro on June 27, 2011 at 4:02am

I'm not going to quote you again, but maybe you should look at your posting and see the word "morality" clearly present in it.

 

My Libertarianism? When did it become mine? I'm registered as independent and think for myself.

 

I apologize for the misleading statement "The US needs more libertarians" I had actually tried to remove that with the "edit" button because I do not consider myself a libertarian, nor do I agree with the extent to which they would minimize the government. However, I am using an awesome computer, purchased with taxpayer's money years ago, running an amazingly old Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0 and the internet connection provided via satellite is painfully slow (yes, I'm currently deployed onboard a US Navy warship). So I'm sorry, I should have deleted it and rewritten, but I'm sort of time-constrained.

 

I don't fully agree with the Libertarian Party, but I think that just like the Republicans and Democrats, they have some interesting points to make. As someone who was a conservative Christian and followed the Republican Party, I have just recently liberated myself from religion. As an atheist I suddenly find myself without a political party to follow.  Not that I fully agreed with the Republican Party before.  We have to take each issue separately, but for some reason in this country we like to polarize everything.

 

I agree with much of what the Republican Party stands for (try to find any official mention of "God" on the GOP website). What I can't stomach is the religious nuts who are defiling a great American Party (the same which abolished slavery and first passed civil rights bills in the 19th century). How did a political party which poineered such important advancements come to be a vehicle for the religious-right? I don't quite know. Political parties are used as vehicles for special interest groups. It is a corruption of America's political system.

 

I can't agree with the banning of gay marriage, and I'm glad to see there are some Republicans who feel the same (NY State's decision).

 

I disagree with the Democratic Party's direction and their constant belief that government exists to solve everyone's problems. The socialization of healthcare is not something I agree with. A lot of solutions that are appearing hold no ground. I would consider myself a conservative not because I'm resistant to change, but because I am skeptical. I'm not going to jump into some new idea just because it sounds good. There are a lot of good ideas which sound good, but in reality are counterproductive. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

 

I guess my political dilemma would be better discussed in it's own posting. I'm sure many here would disagree with my political leanings, but I guess that organizing atheists really is akin to "herding cats".

 

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Permalink Reply by Ava Wilson on June 25, 2011 at 9:56pm

I would prefer prostitution be legalized but heavily controlled. Age requirements, required STD testing every six months, and required to use condoms at all times.

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Permalink Reply by Dr. del Toro on June 25, 2011 at 11:25pm

Yes.  Let's require everyone to use condoms at all times.  How do you propose we enforce that?  Sex referees?  Cameras?

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Permalink Reply by Robin on June 26, 2011 at 9:04am

LOL... really... Big brother is watching us in our back yards... tomorrow our bedrooms, next the bathroom, why not... you might do something in there that's not good for you...

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Permalink Reply by Andrew J. Douglas on June 29, 2011 at 6:42pm

They could always do what's done with legal brothels like the Moonlite BunnyRanch in Nevada and require that stuff like this be done in secure institutions with cameras or some sort of easily-activated alarm installed to ensure the safety of the workers. Maybe a bracelet of some kind with a button that could be pressed to summon security.

As for the condoms..offer them for free at the counter.

Also, 'sex referees' made me laugh. Kudos.

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Permalink Reply by matt.clerke on July 11, 2011 at 8:29pm

Perhaps we should also have a sex coach, sex cheerleaders, and sex audience :P Just don't turn it into a team sport or it might get expensive!

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Permalink Reply by Tanya Wells on June 25, 2011 at 11:20pm

Well Dr. Del Toro i suppose you would prefer a state of anarchy then. Right, that would make us a great society like we had in the LA riots or post hurricane Katrina.  In theory anarchy would be great, but in practice in a country like ours it would fail miserably.

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Permalink Reply by Dr. del Toro on June 25, 2011 at 11:38pm

Don't presume to know my political beliefs. I do not condone anarchy.

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Permalink Reply by Nolan Warner on June 29, 2011 at 5:33pm

Prostitution has been legal in places and times in the USA.  The Union Army in Tenennesse and Louisiana administerd the brothels and the incidents of veneral disease PLUMMETED.   For a woman especially to have control over her own body is anathema to women who prefer subjugation by males and males who cannot abide un-subjugated women.  Men, religion teaches them, are in authority over the woman, her body and desires. 

On this I am a libertarian of the first order.  People are allowed to prostitute themselves if they choose.  But they are also responsible for their actions.  Disease and abuse can be nasty by products and it is not societies responsibility to always come to your rescue when you "roll the dice" with your body. 

I very much detest "victimless crimes" that remain on the books.  Placed there by fuddy duddies that believe they have a stranglehold on the truth.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Jimmy Boy on July 11, 2011 at 7:33am

Hi Nolan - I agree entirely with your sentiments.  But (no point in posting otherwise!) I never associate myself with libertarians, even if I might overlap on some issues with them, because their majority of their views are so appalling for the majority.  The libertarians I have met (only a few - we don't get so many in the UK), espoused views which work just fine in a world of 3 people.  Thereafter suddenly they seem selfish and utterly childish in fact.

 

I think my views on this are just plain liberal. Folks should be allowed to do what they like while those actions don't hurt others.  And if you have to manufacture hurt to society (which the religious do on this subject) then there is no real meeting point for a discussion.

 

Cheers

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Permalink Reply by Robin on July 11, 2011 at 7:40am

"I never associate myself with libertarians, even if I might overlap on some issues with them, because their majority of their views are so appalling for the majority.  The libertarians I have met (only a few - we don't get so many in the UK), espoused views which work just fine in a world of 3 people.  Thereafter suddenly they seem selfish and utterly childish in fact."

What??? Maybe you need to see the real world, and please stop generalizing .

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Permalink Reply by Andrew J. Douglas on June 29, 2011 at 6:35pm

Prostitution should not be illegal in any way, shape or form. A woman can do whatever the heck she wants with her body.

Well, that clears that up. Time for tea.

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