As an American and an atheist I am both disturbed and disgusted by the hearings going on in Congress. Rep. Peter King is doing nothing more then adding fuel to the fire of Glenn Beck and his flock. Shouldn't we as atheists come out against this in a most vocal way? If Rep. King feels that Muslims are a threat, then Christians, Jews and Atheists should be investigated as well. What are you thoughts in regards to this?
Hi Robert, interesting discussion which made me think a lot. Caveat: as a non-resident of the US I haven't read the news on this, but I imagine what it goes like.
So... I think that we are confronted with two different things here. I agree with most posters it is bad to single out one religion to condemn (even one group of it). But this is the same as the "profiling" in airports!
Like someone said brilliantly: I am going to put two planes to go from NY to London. To board one, you do equal profiling to grandmas and 5-year-old kids, and Jewish and Muslims and Buddhists; to get on the other, you do racial profiling - ie you take more time searching Muslims and people who look like Muslims (disgusting, I know). The question is (wait for it): which one would you choose for your family and you to fly? Come on, be honest.
Because this is what I find is the basic problem of many arguments of people who consider themselves left-of-centre (not specifically yours, Robert): they are based on intentions and not on reality. Intentions say "it's bad to single out people, bad, bad bad". But reality shows there are people out there who are ready and prepared to die, to kill YOU. And yes; most of them are Muslims. So why not take the extra time to protect us?
I hope the analogy works for you!
I try to stand-up for any beings of good-brains
and anyone that does say "The truth will set you free," I'll show them this.
In the US, the schools aren't allowed to be worried about education anymore, just standardized test scores. :/
It would be a lovely thing though.
No. Not as such. We shouldn't stand up for anyone that wants to kill us. By the same token, however, we shouldn't stand up for most other religious groups either.
What we should do is use this as an opportunity to point out that the religion of those holding these "hearings" isn't much better, if any. The big difference between the two is that the Christians have had to learn to be more subtle because they have had to live in multi-religious societies for so long.
We should demand hearings into why there is discrimination against non-believers and why we have such obviously un-Constitutional laws and activities in the U.S.