Today, in this video (embedding not allowed, sorry) we can see what happened inside the elevator where Baltimore Ravens running back smacked his wife* so hard she was knocked out for at least a couple minutes. I say we can see what happened, though we can't hear what happened.

* She is referred to variously as his girlfriend and his wife, though I think she may have been his fiancee or "domestic partner" at the time. They are married now, as I understand from a TV discussion I just heard.

Question: does being attacked by a woman justify such a strong response? I ask because it appears she is coming at him for reasons other than making up. Let's say she was pushing him or even giving him a smack. Does that justify punching her like she's an attacker in a bar fight?

BTW, which sex is more violent? It depends upon whether you are talking about who initiates violence or who finishes it:

Women are more likely to be physically and verbally aggressive towards their partner than men, according to a study on domestic violence.

More than 1,000 men and women aged 18 to 22 were questioned about their behaviour using a scale of verbal and physical aggression.

The verbal aggression scale included shouting, screaming and insulting, while the physical aggression scale ranged from pushing and grabbing to beating, throwing things and using weapons.

Women were "significantly" more likely to be verbally and physically aggressive to their male partners than men were to women. (source)

There's little doubt which sex ends the disputes, though. Men almost always have an overwhelming physical advantage in a violent male-female encounter.

Then, there is the treatment of Rice by the judge in his case:

When Ray Rice beat his wife unconscious in an elevator, New Jersey Superior Court Judge Michael Donio and New Jersey District Attorney Jim McClain agreed to put him in a diversion program for 1st-time offenders to keep him out of jail. But when Pennsylvania single mom Shaneen Allen was pulled over for a traffic violation and volunteered to a New Jersey police officer that she was carrying a legally-owned handgun with a Pennsylvania permit, the response of Donis and McClain was to deny her the same opportunity as Rice. (source)

I thought the treatment of Shaneen Allen was a travesty at the time, but in view of the kid glove treatment of Ray Rice, I think it's time for her sentence to be commuted and for Rice to be the one facing prison time.

More than enough things to discuss there, I think.

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Men are by far more abusive than women.

Women more likely to initiate abuse.

How can you say women are more likely to "initiate" abuse? Define that for me. I emphatically disagree.
I wish all men had the attitude these men do....

Many men play the "abuse" card to attempt to get custody of their children, or to "get back" at their partners. It's something that is seen over and over again. MOST men who are abusive at some point try to turn it back on the woman. It's happened to me, it's happened to every woman in my DV support group, and it's always a manipulation tactic. I seriously don't believe that even half of the men who cry "abuse" when you really look at the dynamics of a relationship are just innocent victim bystanders. That is why when a woman has a minor outburst as a result of the ongoing abuse and trauma she's living within, if it's not a pattern of behavior, it is not considered abuse.

I don't think lying about abuse is a men/women thing, but a shitty person thing. I have heard more about women lying about abuse, but never from an unbiased party.

Ok. Just saw the video. That's fucked up. How can you possibly say she was at fault Unseen?

I didn't say that.

RE: Question: does being attacked by a woman justify such a strong response?


I certainly agree.

BTW, which sex is more violent?

Men. Not even a close call.

Depends on what aspect one is talking about. Women seem more likely to be the ones to test the boundaries with verbal or, in most cases, relatively minor physicality. In terms of savagery, certainly men are worse.

RE: There's little doubt which sex ends the disputes, though.

Not always. There are women who have to kill their husbands, because "the law" doesn't do anything to protect them.


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