I was using Google to do some research on the big bang, and I came across a promising looking site, All About Science. The creators of this site have worked very hard to make it look like a legitimate science web site. But it doesn't take long to realize that this is just more Creationist Woo Woo.

I am getting so fed up with all the blatant lying in our society, from the oil companies spending billions to discredit, or obfuscate the science of global warming, to the political lies we see in corporate funded slam ads.

I wish we had a liars' list for all these charlatans. They call it freedom of speech, but it should be illegal! Anyone have any ideas to help expose the hypocracy?

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Good to see this pointed out again; I dug into it a little about a year ago.

They really try to make a lot of their articles sound neutral; but then they summarize or close with something that shows they have a Creationist/ID agenda. And on a few they don't even bother being subtle about it.
That is an amazing tool, I'm playing with it now.
That's Despicable.

I sent them an e-mail from their contact page already. If anyone here has a right sense to help out, you can write your own complain about this website to the Department of Education and the Colorado State Government (They're based in Colorado).

Please put on a disclaimer on the beginning of the website, which would say the following statement:

"DISCLAIMER: Our website is NOT officially endorsed by the Scientific community; this website goal is to show the 'Religious point-of-view' of Science is, and not the entirety of what science encompass as a whole, nor are we presenting a valid scientific truth."

I've read your articles and all the underlying commentaries for each are incomplete thoughts on scientific knowledge, but are lobbying creationist and intelligent design material - both of which have been repeatedly dismissed by Top-class universities and prominent scientists as Fallacious and not even a real science.

Your deceptions are unacceptable, and I believe it is quite illegal to falsely title your website, "All About Science", when your website does not completely show anything knowledgeable in the pursuit of scientific knowledge.
Jesus, I like this!
Apparently, you can also complain about the website informally through this website:

I wish people were smart enough to recognize that they are being lied to and that their precious upstanding fellow theists are lying to them. I wish that would continue to lead them down the path of thinking and make interesting connections and unravel their whole creationist la-la belief system. I also wish that wishes were dollars 'cause then I could go on a fun European vacation.
They don't have nearly as much fake science in Europe! But in France they might say "If wishes were horses, we'd be eating steak!"
As long as atheists "believe" in science instead of "understanding" the scientific process and some science is just plain bad science, even "rational" atheists will be guilty of such behavior!

Some days I hope atheism does not grow too quikly, anytime a way of thinking grows in popularity too fast, that idea becomes so diluted as to mean near to nothing. I already see this happening to atheism, with believers just "flopping over" like people who change the party they vote for every time they go to the polls.
I agree with this statement and i quit often tell people to be cautious in blindly believing in science and thinking their way is the only way. When we do that we become no better than the religions we don't believe in.
I am capable of understanding my doctor as is anyone with half a brain. medical science is learned from books, at least 70% of it is. the rest is learned in the field. the same goes for science. there isn't much about science that i can not understand. I can always do the research and run some test myself. I am certainly not just gonna seat around and let people figure it out for me and take their word for it.

"to be cautious in blindly believing in science "

Kinda almost took what i wrote out of context there.

You know scientist and doctors make huge mistakes all the time. Nobody is perfect and no one has all the answers. I just dont want people to BLINDLY follow anything. You can agree with science and trust scientist to make sound theories and not alter their findings, sadly that happens a great deal. But please do not have faith in science or believe in it like a religion or something. A great deal of atheist do this and it is regularly disused in atheist circles.
The example of health care is a perfect example of the imperfections of science. Visiting different doctors for a similar ailment will get you wildly different results. Visiting physical therapists for a herniated disc will result in conflicting suggestions to a healing path. I expect half the time health care professionals are just guessing at best course of action since so many human ailments are simply not understood by science yet. Our doctors are sometimes no better than quacks.

I feel for atheists who must put 'faith' in technocrats and medicine because I do not do 'faith' or 'belief'. After so many years spent in college and university in science, I know my brain well enough, I can take raw data and make sense of it. I can look at a statistical analysis and see the flaws. There is a lot of flawed science and if people don't have knowledge of statistics and biological/chemical mechanisms, then 'faith' is all they have. And to me that is just as bad as being religious.
It eventually self corrects, yes, over the course of years and years and years, law of averages.

You did not in truth address the issue of people with limited knowledge of science/stats, they are looking at science with the same faitful eyes as they did with religion, looking to science to solve all problems. Science has no purpose, it is only a method by which researchers investigate processes. And most scientists are not altruists, they research for their own curiosity, so people expecting science to solve all of humanity's problems simply do not understand scientific motivation.

People without scientific understanding cannot distinguish between bad science and good, so they end up actually enabling bad science by giving it a market of dupes.


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