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Permalink Reply by Gregg R Thomas on March 12, 2013 at 7:09am

Everybody can be made to look better with make-up applied by a skilled person.

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Permalink Reply by Gregg R Thomas on March 11, 2013 at 12:56pm

That's why it's called Make-Up and all the before images use different lighting.

All women use Make-Up (at least the ones that want to get laid do), where's the problem?

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on March 11, 2013 at 1:00pm

Look, I'm a photographer and I see no substantial difference in lighting in most cases (I reviewed about a dozen, not all). It's the makeup which makes the lighting appear different. 

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Permalink Reply by Gregg R Thomas on March 11, 2013 at 3:07pm

I see a difference in the color saturation in this set of pics.

You don't?

Not in all but in a lot of them.

Here too.

And this one.

It's either lighting or two different women with the same tattoos.

When I look at the background in the first one you posted, I see a white door that is lit differently in the before and after pics.

Just saying.

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on March 11, 2013 at 4:21pm

I'm not saying there's never any difference, I just looked at a dozen or so and the lighting wasn't extravagantly different. In some photos, what you are calling color saturation is mostly a difference in white balance to compensate for the sort of lighting used. 

Midday summer sunlight or equivalent photo lighting, like flash, is almost purely white. Incandescent light gives a yellow-orange cast. Fluorescent a green cast. White balance, used properly, adjust the cast of the latter two to appear as if white light had been used.

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Permalink Reply by Gregg R Thomas on March 11, 2013 at 7:44pm

Hahaha, yea that must be it, those houses don't have roofs. LOL

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Permalink Reply by Sagacious Hawk on March 11, 2013 at 7:30pm

What you could be seeing is a change in the time of day which changes the lighting in the room which affects the automatic settings on the camera. Like in the first one with the red, I doubt she did all that work in less than an hour.

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Permalink Reply by Gregg R Thomas on March 11, 2013 at 7:50pm

If you say so...but I'm a skeptic....all those pictures are inside shots...and that's NOT natural light lighting the scene.

If those pictures were taken outside then you and the Unseen One might have a leg to stand on, but in this case the preponderance of the evidence is on my side.

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Permalink Reply by Alan C on March 11, 2013 at 6:54pm

I too am a photographer and I see quite a lot of difference in the lighting, I would say that most of the 'natural' photographs are taken with a flash on or near the camera, the 'professional' pictures are taken using studio lighting rigs with reflectors.  The studio lighting provides a softer light with better skin tones and fewer shadows.

In addition look at the focal length of the lenses, in many of the 'professional' shots you will notice that the background appears a lot closer to the model even though the image fills the frame the same, indicating that a telephoto lens was used in those shots and wider angle lens in the 'natural shots', the telephoto lens causes less distortion to the shape of the face.

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on March 11, 2013 at 7:50pm

Well, then, look at the catchlight in the eyes. It's a generally good way to analyze the lighting and the catchlights between the before and after shots seem anywhere from very similar to absolutely identical. As for focal length, there does seem to be some variety there. I assume that goes to the photographer shooting from different distances, not necessarily intentionally. I just don't find any substantial subtext of deceit in the photos. 

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on March 11, 2013 at 8:18pm

Taking another look, I do see that in many of the "before" shots there was an incandescent light on overhead in addition to the photographic lighting, whereas in most cases (I didn't examine every single one) the overhead light was not on for the after shots. 

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Permalink Reply by BlackGravity on March 11, 2013 at 1:11pm

yuck!.. a lot of them kinda looked better without make up... but damn.. that's sad.

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