Take a good hard look into the life of new pope. To give an overview he thinks that:

Homosexuality is still a sin. He tells people to respect homosexuals, but whent the Argintinian government is going to make sam-sex marriage legal he says, "Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God."

During his early life he gave up all his fancy posetions (personal cook, facy place to live, chauffeured limo) and made a pledge of poverty. This sounds awefully noble right? Wrong, look at why he had those things to start out with (because he was a cardinal). Think about what the Bible verson of Jesus would have done. He probably wouldn't have even considered giving those things out to preachers of his word anyway. So denying riches should be something that cardinals and popes HAVE to do an shouldn't be praised for. By the way, the pledge of poverty meant that he just had to live like everyone else in the community (what a saint -- sarcasm)

Lastly, there was a criminal complaint filed against him by a human rights lawyer for the abduction of two Jesuit priests. However, there was no evidence to prove that he had anything to do with it. :)

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"(atheist) eyes are on them."

As far as I'm concerned, the more conservative the Pope the better. The larger the droves rushing for the exit.

Oh please, Angela!  Where exactly did Jesus say, "Love the person but hate the act"?  Furthermore, where did he condemn homosexuality?  If you want to pull up old testament shit then explain why Catholics eat pork or wear clothing made of mixed fabric.

In the end, he's the head honcho of the longest running, continuous game of make believe.

Ah, Heather... makes me want to 'friend' you all over again :)

And over and over and over?  Sounds kinky, :D

Do you mean verses 17-48 of chapter 5?  Those are the most common verses used to support old testament law - but nothing specific about homosexuality is stated.

The general party line amongst Christians is that he was not here to abolish the law but fulfill the law -> meaning he was not absolving any who came before but was, rather, fulfilling the prophecy that a messiah would deliver a new covenant.  Don't ask me where that new covenant is referenced because it's been 20 years since I studied that bullshit.

In any event, Christianity, almost in its entirety, believes that the prophecy was fulfilled when Jesus died (even though he didn't) and therefore the new covenant came into effect at that point.  They then go on to define that new covenant by denomination -> essentially freelancing their own covenant but none of them conforming to old testament law anymore.

Well, overall he did claim to be here to 'fulfill' the law - but it's very difficult to determine what that meant when he himself regularly broke Rabbinic law and rarely uttered specific prohibitions.  The obvious meaning is that the various authors weren't well enough acquainted with the concept of literary analysis to keep their stories straight - but from a Christian perspective it really allows for divine justification/prohibition of pretty much whatever they like.

I started reading one of the gospels again last year, now that the 'magic' has totally worn off, and it was painful.  So he was walking along and said to two guys, "come with me" and they dropped what they were doing and followed.  Then they went for dinner and listened to all the cool things he said - blah blah blah - it is SOOO obviously written for those already familiar with the cult.


Why so angry Heather? ... Why are you on the attack?

Im sure its in the New Testiment - Ill find something for you a little later if you like but please... dont project your dislike for religion on to me ... Settle Down


Not angry - just irritated by the sort of misinformation I usually expect to hear from theists.  If you want to say that Jesus said something, then please cite it - because he has to be the most misquoted figure in history.


What theist? ... Where????

You do realize that Catholics aren't fundamentalists, right?   We're the ones that wrote and compiled the Bible.  We're very aware that those are human words.  We believe God can inspire and guide humans, but the words are human.  Particularly since they're typically translations of the original!

A pope does not enforce God's laws.  That's God's job.  Churches and priests and popes are just teachers.  They do their best to compile and annotate and teach about God and the universe.  There's no "enforcement".  God and the universe are what they are, and people always have free will to be ignorant, whether it's about climate change or sexual morality.  All churches try to do is teach what is right.

Have you noticed that when you get a doctorate in a science like Physics, you wear monks' robes to your graduation, where you receive a cleric's hood?  That's because the cataloging and teaching of knowledge started with the Church. 

For enforcement, you have to look to the State.


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