Take a good hard look into the life of new pope. To give an overview he thinks that:

Homosexuality is still a sin. He tells people to respect homosexuals, but whent the Argintinian government is going to make sam-sex marriage legal he says, "Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God."

During his early life he gave up all his fancy posetions (personal cook, facy place to live, chauffeured limo) and made a pledge of poverty. This sounds awefully noble right? Wrong, look at why he had those things to start out with (because he was a cardinal). Think about what the Bible verson of Jesus would have done. He probably wouldn't have even considered giving those things out to preachers of his word anyway. So denying riches should be something that cardinals and popes HAVE to do an shouldn't be praised for. By the way, the pledge of poverty meant that he just had to live like everyone else in the community (what a saint -- sarcasm)

Lastly, there was a criminal complaint filed against him by a human rights lawyer for the abduction of two Jesuit priests. However, there was no evidence to prove that he had anything to do with it. :)

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Why should atheists behave in a moral fashion, or choose not to be ignorant?

The same reasons.

We learn from our parents and our communities.  Hopefully we have good parents and good communities from whom we learn to make good choices and to continue to try to grow and improve ourselves.  The Church strives to be one such community.

Why should atheists behave in a moral fashion, or choose not to be ignorant?

Because we don't have a god in the sky telling us to pillage innocent, kill infidels, discriminate against homosexuals and hate women.

Believe it or not, that helps a great deal in being a moral person.

We also don't have a god to conveniently justify our evils for us.

@Professor Roberts:  Fair enough.  You answered me.  Thanks.  Now it means that Christians can stop saying that atheists must be immoral people. 

As did the Davidians --

There's no "enforcement".  God and the universe are what they are, and people always have free will to be ignorant

I'll find you, and set your house on fire while your family is asleep, unless you convert to my religion, kOrsanity, right away.

There, no enforcement, just free will.

And that's bullshit. It's enforcement. It's holding people at gunpoint with hell. It's an ultimatum. It's a threat.

You're incredibly dishonest. Listen and learn:

@kOrsan, I'm confused.

You think it's "holding people at gunpoint" to speak of hell?  Guns are a very real and present threat.  Hell is a theological story, one that you yourself feel is a fiction.  How does one hold someone at gunpoint with a story?

Hell is a theological story, one that you yourself feel is a fiction.  How does one hold someone at gunpoint with a story?

It's fiction to us, that's exactly why we're atheists. It's not fiction to the millions of weak minded people you con into your faith. Not to little children who believe their parents when they're told they'll go to hell and burn forever unless they grow up to be part of whatever their parents' dogma is.

If you replaced the nonsense about coal in your stockings with the threat of hell, people would still be believing in Santa too.

Don't pretend like you don't understand the difference.

To be honest hell was a Greek concept (Tartarus) long before it was a Catholic/Christian concept. The Japanese Buddhists had the best definition of hell long before the Catholics/Christians (it is a very interesting subject, well worth some research. Talk to an East Asian history teacher in your school). They used hell to keep people in line because it was extremely effective. Then the Catholics/Christians adopted it because it was effective (they used it mainly from Greek tradition, but I couldn't help but throw in the Buddhist hell. In my opinion Buddhist hell is much worse, but they believe that you can work off your sin in hell and eventually ascend to heaven. They also had various layers depending on what you did. Now I'm just babbling sorry!) back on topic hell is very much like holding a gun to someone's head.

"You better watch out, you better not pout, you better not cry, I'm telling you why - Santa Clause is coming to town."

I don't know, how DOES one hold someone at gunpoint with a story?

You had to ask....

What was that Bond song? "Nobody Does It Better?"

Not to mention his classic take on abortion.

There are criminal complaints filed by human rights lawyers against most people in his position.

But yeah, the show of modesty is a bit suspect. But that happens when the concept itself is. "I'm washing your feet to show I'm not better than you." Yes, thank you, because I totally needed to be shown that. I had no idea.



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